Powers & Abilities What the HELL is this Zoro ability

#22
I never commented about the thread just wanted to talk about why I don't believe Kaido was blitz.
You just said “kaido is preparing to attack” which means you are commenting on the point of the thread that is about the fact that Kaido clearly attacked Zoro and somehow FAILED TO DO ANYTHING

So no, you are both wrong about Kaido preparing to attack and wrong about kaido still being in the mindset of letting people hit him since he actively dodges weaker attacks before this
 
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Herrera95

#23
You just said “kaido is preparing to attack” which means you are commenting on the point of the thread that is about the fact that Kaido clearly attacked Zoro and somehow FAILED TO DO ANYTHING

So no, you are both wrong about Kaido preparing to attack and wrong about kaido still being in the mindset of letting people hit him since he actively dodges weaker attacks before this
Chapter 1000, Kaido PREPARING to attack Luffy. Luffy dodged and landed Red Roc on him. Luffy blitzed Kaido? NO. Because he was the one blitzed just after that.
Chapter 1001(or 1002? Not sure) Killer and Zoro attack Kaido, Kaido puts his weapon in front of him like he is defending. It is odd but so far Kaido is letting everybody hits him, he is clearly fast enough to dodge if he wants.
Kaido only dodge one attack, from Luffy. Why? Because Red Roc hurt him bad. And he knew Luffy was doing a similar attack only at his base form since G4 can't use adv armament. Zoro only hurt Kaido bad with Ashura, if Zoro kept fightining Kaido would start to dodge his attacks too.

I'm not saying Zoro can't blitz Kaido. I just think he didn't.
The thread is about 3 blows. This is pretty much Oda hinting that Ashura is only illusion and Zoro is attacking with only his 3 sword 1 head etc. I understand only by Zoro hitting Kaido at 3 spots and only with Enma he made a scar.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#24
the first is haki barrier, the same that stopped Hakai just chapters ago.
The second is Kaido's club and Zoro's swords clashing before Kaido lifts his club up.
Oda didnt make that scene easy but anime should clear it up.
Interestingly the clash of barrier and metal also makes the same KLANG sfx.
Reinforces, even more, my view of barriers to be mimicking weapons...
 
#26
The thread is about 3 blows.
Are you saying those impacts in the panel are Zoro hitting Kaido? So Zoro hitting Kaido produces the sound effect “Clang”? Kaido’s body made of metal?

And Zoro cutting Kaku with 9 sword style Ashura produced ONE cut as well so your theory on only Enma working is wrong.

And finally, Do you remember chapter 1008? When all the supernovas were wondering whether their attacks were working on Kaido and Luffy said YES, ALL of them must be damaging Kaido. Meaning Kaido has been taking damage from everyone. Kaido wasn’t just hurt by Red Roc in chapter 1000 and the nothing else. Him dodging Luffy’s regular red hawk NOT RED ROC isn’t an indicator that for some reason he fears Red hawk more than ALL THE OTHER ATTACKS THAT HAVE BEEN DAMAGING HIM. are you going to say Luffy’s entire g4 barrage did less damage than red Roc? No? So why is Kaido specifically smchoosing to dodge Red hawk supposedly because it has fire on it like red Roc?

That red hawk attack is not special that Kaido only chooses to dodge it. Red rock was nowhere near the strongest attacks Kaido had been getting hurt by and red hawk is even weaker than red Roc. So no, Kaido dodged because he was getting hurt by EVERYONE as Luffy said in chapter 1008 so from 1009 Kaido has been trying to dodge every attacks
 
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Herrera95

#27
Are you saying those impacts in the panel are Zoro hitting Kaido? So Zoro hitting Kaido produces the sound effect “Clang”? Kaido’s body made of metal?

And Zoro cutting Kaku with 9 sword style Ashura produced ONE cut as well so your theory on only Enma working is wrong.

And finally, Do you remember chapter 1008? When all the supernovas were wondering whether their attacks were working on Kaido and Luffy said YES, ALL of them must be damaging Kaido. Meaning Kaido has been taking damage from everyone. Kaido wasn’t just hurt by Red Roc in chapter 1000 and the nothing else. Him dodging Luffy’s regular red hawk NOT RED ROC isn’t an indicator that for some reason he fears Red hawk more than ALL THE OTHER ATTACKS THAT HAVE BEEN DAMAGING HIM. are you going to say Luffy’s entire g4 barrage did less damage than red Roc? No? So why is Kaido specifically smchoosing to dodge Red hawk supposedly because it has fire on it like red Roc?

That red hawk attack is not special that Kaido only chooses to dodge it. Red rock was nowhere near the strongest attacks Kaido had been getting hurt by and red hawk is even weaker than red Roc. So no, Kaido dodged because he was getting hurt by EVERYONE as Luffy said in chapter 1008 so from 1009 Kaido has been trying to dodge every attacks
Okay, so idk whatehell that Ashura shit is. Never liked that attack in first place. And I think is horrible Zoro last attack be it. Ashura is a pre timeskip attack, Zoro didn't learned nothing new besides haki?

So you are basically arguing that Luffy is the slowest of rooftop since Kaido only dodged his attack.

Red Roc is red hawk + g3 and he is using adv armament. Red hawk is without G2 but be sure he is using advanced armament. He fucking training adv armament for not using? And tell me one thing, do you think he was using adv armament with G4?


Luffy say he is taking damage, so why he needed to learn adv armament to hurt Kaido? And why his adv armament was not doing enough damage but only now he is doing? Makes no sense at all.
 
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Herrera95

#33
That's how swordsmen work, they dont need anything else. They have the most powerful tool in their hands already. :goyea:
I'm talking abuot that not about a new transformation or Zoro G4. I'm talking about new techniques. Zoro pre timeskip was always using new techniques every arc. Post timeskip he is only using pre timeskip technique but with haki. I atleast don't remember any new technique from Zoro post timeskip.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#34
I'm talking abuot that not about a new transformation or Zoro G4. I'm talking about new techniques. Zoro pre timeskip was always using new techniques every arc. Post timeskip he is only using pre timeskip technique but with haki. I atleast don't remember any new technique from Zoro post timeskip.
There are actually 6 new moves but nothing special. The most notable among them is the Secret technique, Crossing of the Six Paths.
Zoro's swordsmanship is top tier and doesnt change much since East Blue.
Many moves used in Wano were used in East Blue as well.
The only notable change were flying slashes and Asura but flying slashes might have been in EB too if Tatsumaki is considered one.
 
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Herrera95

#35
There are actually 6 new moves but nothing special. The most notable among them is the Secret technique, Crossing of the Six Paths.
Zoro's swordsmanship is top tier and doesnt change much since East Blue.
Many moves used in Wano were used in East Blue as well.
The only notable change were flying slashes and Asura but flying slashes might have been in EB too if Tatsumaki is considered one.
Don't even have to consider tatsumaki a flying slash, he used first time at Skypea. Kaku was using against him not sure if he used against Kaku too.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#36
Don't even have to consider tatsumaki a flying slash, he used first time at Skypea. Kaku was using against him not sure if he used against Kaku too.
Technically yes.
However, Tatsumaki also has the part of flying slashes aside from the direct sword slash. Used in Arlong Park.
Pure flying slash is from Skypiea, as you say. He used 72p Ho against Kaku, yes.
 
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