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Zoro and Sanji as king's opponents. Pros and cons:
Zoro.
Pluses:
King a swordman
Fire ability, Wildfire nickname. Zoro want to learn how to cut fire.
Ryu Ryu DF. Zoro has an Enma.
King look like 2nd after Kaido. Zoro always fight with 2nd strongest enemy.
Minuses:
Zoro weak agains flying(hard to reach because of the distance) opponents:
Dragon on PH(he needed Ussops help to get the dragon in air);
against Pica he needed Orlombus help to reach Colossus waist;
in Wano he could oneshoted Batman, but can't because he was too far away and could easily dodge slash in the air.
He needs a Winsmoke's suit to stand up to king.
Sanji.
Pluses:
He can fly. And now even better with Vinsmoke suit.
His suit protects from fire and some damage
Invisibility
Minuses:
We saw what happened with Ichiji when he meet Katakuri. Same will happen with Sanji and King
Sanji never fight against swordsman(as I recall)
Together they could defeat him, perhaps.
Zoro.
Pluses:
King a swordman
Fire ability, Wildfire nickname. Zoro want to learn how to cut fire.
Ryu Ryu DF. Zoro has an Enma.
King look like 2nd after Kaido. Zoro always fight with 2nd strongest enemy.
Minuses:
Zoro weak agains flying(hard to reach because of the distance) opponents:
Dragon on PH(he needed Ussops help to get the dragon in air);
against Pica he needed Orlombus help to reach Colossus waist;
in Wano he could oneshoted Batman, but can't because he was too far away and could easily dodge slash in the air.
He needs a Winsmoke's suit to stand up to king.
Sanji.
Pluses:
He can fly. And now even better with Vinsmoke suit.
His suit protects from fire and some damage
Invisibility
Minuses:
We saw what happened with Ichiji when he meet Katakuri. Same will happen with Sanji and King
Sanji never fight against swordsman(as I recall)
Together they could defeat him, perhaps.
The problem is Zoro's dream isn't "World's strongest swordsman who fights in teams"
If Zoro doesn't have a definitive 1v1 with someone then what happens in the next arc when someone stronger comes around. They would have to make Zoro fight a weaker person instead which doesn't happen.
And counter point to King flying is he still has to fight Close quaters... Like King went decided to rush a Yonkou and all her men because his best chance was still Close quaters combat
Unless King has some ridiculous long range abilty that's fast and extremely powerful, his Flying is mainly a mobility boost and that's it. It's not been shown that King is like Doflamingo who can kick strings that fly kilometres away and dice up mountains. King is a Zoan devil fruit user who is and swordsman and by default, his main combat will be in close quaters with increases mobility due to the wings and that's all. So when he comes in for his close combat, Zoro will be ready.
Also Pica isn't an example here since he was running away. Pica, mountain form and general mobility increase from said mountain form had ZERO impact on the actual fighting between them. So if you use pica as an example then you would have to say King would be running away from Zoro too
If Zoro doesn't have a definitive 1v1 with someone then what happens in the next arc when someone stronger comes around. They would have to make Zoro fight a weaker person instead which doesn't happen.
And counter point to King flying is he still has to fight Close quaters... Like King went decided to rush a Yonkou and all her men because his best chance was still Close quaters combat
Unless King has some ridiculous long range abilty that's fast and extremely powerful, his Flying is mainly a mobility boost and that's it. It's not been shown that King is like Doflamingo who can kick strings that fly kilometres away and dice up mountains. King is a Zoan devil fruit user who is and swordsman and by default, his main combat will be in close quaters with increases mobility due to the wings and that's all. So when he comes in for his close combat, Zoro will be ready.
Also Pica isn't an example here since he was running away. Pica, mountain form and general mobility increase from said mountain form had ZERO impact on the actual fighting between them. So if you use pica as an example then you would have to say King would be running away from Zoro too
Ok this cant be a real reason. Cause you know Oda will make Sanji as strong as he wants.
Nope Sanji oneshotted Raisin. And his feet are strong enough to block against blades shown by his clashes with Daifuku and Judge. So this is disproven.
The problem is Oda doesnt give a fuck lmao. If he did Zoro would be fighting strong swordsman constantly instead of trash like Pica lol.
Be grateful for what you get lol.
Nope Sanji oneshotted Raisin. And his feet are strong enough to block against blades shown by his clashes with Daifuku and Judge. So this is disproven.
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The problem is Oda doesnt give a fuck lmao. If he did Zoro would be fighting strong swordsman constantly instead of trash like Pica lol.
Be grateful for what you get lol.