Luffy is different he knew about the ability, and he saw how it worked so he just focused on it until he was able to get a handle of it. Zoro doesn’t even know he can use any CoC. If Luffy went from no CoO to Future sight in one night you’d have a solid comparison but he didn’t.
Now Oda can asspull Advanced Conqueror's haki from Zoro whenever he wants to in order to make Zoro a top tier with Enma, it's just a matter of time, he already has his probably strongest endgame power up but some guys want him to get healed in 2 chapters, fight King because he often uses a random sword and then kill Kaido later lol
Now Oda can asspull Advanced Conqueror's haki from Zoro whenever he wants to in order to make Zoro a top tier with Enma, it's just a matter of time, he already has his probably strongest endgame power up but these guys want him to get healed in 2 chapters, fight King because he carries a random sword and then kill Kaido later lol
They lead the strongest army in the world that directly opposes the world government lead by the worlds worst criminal. You seriously want to downplay these guys...
No clear confirmation but it’s pretty straightforward when Sabo has advanced armament haki, a powerful logia, and his performance against an emperor >> Marcos.
Linlin ~ Kaido has been mentioned multiple times in story.
Zoro doesn’t even know how to utilize CoC to begin with before he can apply it to anything.
Borsalino used a Japanese treasure, it’s literally named after a ceremonial sword and not a real one compared to the man who’s based on one of the most famous swordsman in Japanese movie history. Yeah one is much more likely.
I don’t think that for a Pirate king fight against the co main antagonist of the show a mid diff fight will do it. It would be a at least a serious high diff fight.
Not an high diff fight in pure power clash but overall with tricky abilities etc.
Shiryu was hyped enough and the situation is important enough.
Not exactly. The issue is not showing your all, but being stronger than your opponent.
It's a valid way to win a fight by preventing your opponent from powering up.
No one defends Sanji's loss to Doflamingo by claiming that Sanji could have still used Hell's Memories. Sanji didn't go all out, but he was still low diffed.
Likewise vs King, Sanji didn't go all out by was knocked out of commission for a bit.
We have to go back to the beginning : you were talking about the difficulty of the fight between Sanji and King and comparing that with Zoro strength.
Here you used Sanji situational performance in a mere clash to compare that with Zoro strength. In a real fight Sanji wouldn’t have been low diff at all.
You can’t use that to say Zoro >> King >> (low diff) Sanji.
You can’t gauge RS Sanji overall power level with that clash.
Your issue is that you think Zoro is close to Sanji's level. In actuality, Raid Suit Sanji was low diffed by someone considerably weaker than Zoro (King).
And indeed against Dofla it was particular. Sanji was low diffed because of parasite hax and would likely would have been mid diff with knowledge of parasite.
situational clash often have hax, or hype or plot. We can have power level indications or truth in it but often we can’t gauge the real level of someone with them in real 1 vs 1 fight.
He was pushed back when defending by Ittoryu Zoro.
Zoro was under immense gravitational pressure at the time.
He was pushed back when defending by G3 Luffy.
He took significant damage while fighting alongside an Admiral against Sabo and some scrubs.
Contrast the performance of one of the Logia Trio:
Sakazuki came out unscathed from a vastly superior force than the team Issho fought in a 2 vs 1.
Sakazuki alone made Gura Teach and his entire crew flee.
Sakazuki alone took on a surprise attack from Marco (Sabo level) and Vista (likely comparable to the strongest of the Commanders) and walked away unscathed.
Issho's performance against high tiers has been so much worse than Sakazuki's.
it is once again because you took situations and clash into straight power levels.
Fuji was on vacation on Dressrosa. Everyone said he was weird didn’t go all out etc. The guy was on a free ride enjoying himself. They only time he tried a little everyone shit his boots with the insane feats of raising all of dressrosa rubbles.
Fuji was laughing his ass off while fighting Luffy. The time he threw a real attack he sent Luffy flying the other side of the country.
About the revolution army thing : he was jumped 4 vs 2 in a surprise attack in the heart of Marie geoise where all the CD are living. Do you think he had the luxury to go all out ? To destroy everything ? Yet it seems they body bagged them all and Sabo is in a real difficult situation.
Don’t compare Akainu (the strongest of the pack with a logia defense) in a middle of a war and battle ready to Fujitora eating ramen in Marie geoise.
Fuji doesn’t have the same kind of defense as Akainu so he takes damages but he is not at all leagues weaker than any other admirals. Fuji is strong no doubt, the marine didn’t recruit weaklings in their highest rank
How can you say this is normal ? This is out of the norm based on Oda's History with Zoro and Sanjis Matchups. And people are making it an expectation..... The Expectation should sanji vs queen , not Sanji vs King.
How can you say this is normal ? This is out of the norm based on Oda's History with Zoro and Sanjis Matchups. And people are making it an expectation..... The Expectation should sanji vs queen , not Sanji vs King.
Ofc it's normal, King=Queen, the only difference is that Queen is a Tank, and King can fly.
Based on this 2 attributes Queen is a better matchup for Zoro, while King is for Sanji...
You have 0 panels and feats to prove King>Queen, in fact you have panels of Queen resisting BM's punch...
Did Law use his sword or not to channel some of his attacks??? Was Kizaru or not using his sword to channel some of his attacks against Rayleigh??? Of Blackbeard I'm less confident because he rarely used his gun, there's no canonically accepted definition for swordsman for Oda, all we can make of it is discerning patterns,and extrapolate conclusions. In the vocabulary a simple sword user equates to a swordsman however.
Law is canonically a swordsman, this isn't speculation.
Did Law use his sword or not to channel some of his attacks??? Was Kizaru or not using his sword to channel some of his attacks against Rayleigh??? Of Blackbeard I'm less confident because he rarely used his gun, there's no canonically accepted definition for swordsman for Oda, all we can make of it is discerning patterns,and extrapolate conclusions. In the vocabulary a simple sword user equates to a swordsman however.
Law is canonically a swordsman, this isn't speculation.
There's little argument for Kizaru as not standing as a swordsman, the odds are minimal. The pattern is crystal clear. There's no major difference with Law to be spot. If Kizaru had to he could use that sword for countless time most likely. Depending on the situation demanding it or not.
There's little argument for Kizaru as not standing as a swordsman, the odds are minimal. The pattern is crystal clear. There's no major difference with Law to be spot. If Kizaru had to he could use that sword for countless time most likely. Depending on the situation demanding it or not.
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