Current Events Are you hyped for Zoro vs Queen and Sanji vs King?

[Sir Yasheen]

I'm not downplaying them, you're just downplaying Post Wano Zoro.

Chapter 1000 Zoro pushes Hybrid Kaido to medium difficulty by himself.

Post Wano Zoro will:

• Be able to enhance his attacks with COC
• Have forged a Black Blade

• Base Kaido probably loses with at most medium difficulty to all out Kaido.
• Issho is noticeably weaker than the Logia Trio.

She's Nami's opponent:

• Nami is always given other women to fight.
• Catarina Devon loves collecting the heads of beautiful women.

Chapter 1000 Zoro does no such thing. Hybrid Kaido focusing purely on Zoro would low diff him. Zoro had to use all his power into a single attack and it still only scarred him.

And that’s a leap in logic, you think Zoros going to go from “not knowing he has a power” to mastery in the span of one night... no.

And saying OG Admirals > Issho is just not true. That’s just your headcanon. I wouldn’t insult Zoros EOS opponent like that.

 

[Abysmal]

And that’s a leap in logic, you think Zoros going to go from “not knowing he has a power” to mastery in the span of one night... no.

Luffy did that in 1 chapter

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Luffy did that in 1 chapter

What are you talking about. Luffy spent two years training his CoC and he spent weeks training haki flow. It’s not the same as Zoro who isn’t even aware of CoC

 

[Cinera]

It is the same logic. We know that Sanji is stronger than what he showed even without new PU. So why didn't you take into account that ? Why Luffy get a pass and not Sanji ?

Not exactly. The issue is not showing your all, but being stronger than your opponent.

It's a valid way to win a fight by preventing your opponent from powering up.

No one defends Sanji's loss to Doflamingo by claiming that Sanji could have still used Hell's Memories. Sanji didn't go all out, but he was still low diffed.

Likewise vs King, Sanji didn't go all out by was knocked out of commission for a bit.

So you think Zoro vs Daz was mid diff ? hell no.

No vs Daz Bones was extreme difficulty, I just don't see Shiryuu pushing Zoro that far.

IMO, for Zoro's future opponents:

• Shiryuu: medium to high difficulty.
• Borsalino: high to very high difficulty.
• Mihawk: very high to extreme difficulty.

You know well that I think that if Yamato joins Sanji wil be stronger than her and will as such have a better opponent.

I think otherwise. But we'll see when Yamato starts to fight Kaido.

Sanji's fighting Avalo Pizarro IMO.

 

[Human D Luffy]

And saying OG Admirals > Issho is just not true. That’s just your headcanon.

I agree with @Cinera on this. OG admirals > issho.
Otherwise they would have been the OG admirals a few years ago. The only exception to that is if they didn't formerly worked for the government and the WG suddenly just discovered issho and greenbull's greatness.

 

[Abysmal]

What are you talking about. Luffy spent two years training his CoC and he spent weeks training haki flow. It’s not the same as Zoro who isn’t even aware of CoC

Unless it's a different concept for swordsmen.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I agree with @Cinera on this. OG admirals > issho.
Otherwise they would have been the OG admirals a few years ago. The only exception to that is if they didn't formerly worked for the government and the WG suddenly just discovered issho and greenbull's greatness.

They never worked for the World government before they were admirals. They were drafted in the world draft

 

[Human D Luffy]

They never worked for the World government before they were admirals. They were drafted in the world draft

Source? I am happy to stand corrected.

 

[RealD]

not interesting.

Oda needs to nerf zoro to make him equal with sanji.

poor sanji lol.

pretty similar condition during arlong arc when zoro vs hachi

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Source? I am happy to stand corrected.

 

[Julius]

Sanji didn't go all out, but he was still low diffed.

So Luffy vs Katakuri is the battle of low diffs lol, i think there is a big difference between getting stunned/outmatched by an attack and actually getting low diffed, especially when you're not putting a lot of effort in the battle compared to your opponent ( and thats due to many other reasons)

 

[Human D Luffy]

I stand corrected. For the longest time I thought green and purple worked for the WG prior.

 

[Jackteo]

The opponent Sanji is going to defeat before the blonde gorosei is a monster, the Gorosei are something else

 

[Cinera]

The jobs match too much with the BBP to not consider Nami vs Laffite (both navigators), Jinbei and Burgess (both helmsman)

Then maybe Catarina Devon vs Robin then.

Catarina Devon is going to face one of the weak women on the crew. A character that loves to collect the heads of beautiful women only works as an opponent for a girl that's weaker than herself.

Base Yamato already has feats that suggest she's >> Catarina Devon (no hype at all), so that matchup wouldn't work.

Yamato also turns into a Hybrid half human half animal form when fighting, so the entire "beautiful women" thing just wouldn't work either.


I think of Lafitte vs Brook because they're both skinny, but Lafitte vs Nami might work I guess.

since when ?

Since:

• He was pushed back when defending by Ittoryu Zoro.
• Zoro was under immense gravitational pressure at the time.
• He was pushed back when defending by G3 Luffy.
• He took significant damage while fighting alongside an Admiral against Sabo and some scrubs.

Contrast the performance of one of the Logia Trio:

• Sakazuki came out unscathed from a vastly superior force than the team Issho fought in a 2 vs 1.
• Sakazuki alone made Gura Teach and his entire crew flee.
• Sakazuki alone took on a surprise attack from Marco (Sabo level) and Vista (likely comparable to the strongest of the Commanders) and walked away unscathed.

Issho's performance against high tiers has been so much worse than Sakazuki's.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Source? I am happy to stand corrected.

It was mentioned earlier by Doffy but chapter 735 mentions it again:

Fujitora: “I’m new to this game, fresh off the World draft. But now that I’ve been placed in the role of an admiral...”

Post automatically merged: May 20, 2021

Then maybe Catarina Devon vs Robin then.

Catarina Devon is going to face one of the weak women on the crew. A character that loves to collect the heads of beautiful women only works as an opponent for a girl that's weaker than herself.

Base Yamato already has feats that suggest she's >> Catarina Devon (no hype at all), so that matchup wouldn't work.

Yamato also turns into a Hybrid half human half animal form when fighting, so the entire "beautiful women" thing just wouldn't work either.


I think of Lafitte vs Brook because they're both skinny, but Lafitte vs Nami might work I guess.



Since:

• He was pushed back when defending by Ittoryu Zoro.
• Zoro was under immense gravitational pressure at the time.
• He was pushed back when defending by G3 Luffy.
• He took significant damage while fighting alongside an Admiral against Sabo and some scrubs.

Contrast the performance of one of the Logia Trio:

• Sakazuki came out unscathed from a vastly superior force than the team Issho fought in a 2 vs 1.
• Sakazuki alone made Gura Teach and his entire crew flee.
• Sakazuki alone took on a surprise attack from Marco (Sabo level) and Vista (likely comparable to the strongest of the Commanders) and walked away unscathed.

Issho's performance against high tiers has been so much worse than Sakazuki's.

So: he’s weaker because You want to downplay the revolutionary army...

Sabo is definitely over Marco level. And the Rev Army leaders are all probably Marco Level.

 

[Cinera]

Chapter 1000 Zoro does no such thing. Hybrid Kaido focusing purely on Zoro would low diff him. Zoro had to use all his power into a single attack and it still only scarred him.

• Hybrid Kaido couldn't even knock out Post Hakai Zoro with a COC Thunder Bagua.
• Hybrid Kaido focusing only on Zoro had several of his attacks parried.
• Hybrid Kaido focusing only on Zoro was blitzed by Zoro.
• Hybrid Kaido focusing only on Zoro was scarred by Zoro.

Post Hakai Zoro pushed Hybrid Kaido to medium difficulty.

And that’s a leap in logic, you think Zoros going to go from “not knowing he has a power” to mastery in the span of one night... no.

Luffy learned FS vs Katakuri and reached his level. All within a few hours.

Zoro has already unconsciously used the ability. All that's left is taming it.

And saying OG Admirals > Issho is just not true. That’s just your headcanon.

Issho has consistently fared worse against High Tiers.

I wouldn’t insult Zoros EOS opponent like that.

Nah, Zoro's Admiral opponent is Borsalino.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

• Hybrid Kaido couldn't even knock out Post Hakai Zoro with a COC Thunder Bagua.
• Hybrid Kaido focusing only on Zoro had several of his attacks parried.
• Hybrid Kaido focusing only on Zoro was blitzed by Zoro.
• Hybrid Kaido focusing only on Zoro was scarred by Zoro.

Post Hakai Zoro pushed Hybrid Kaido to medium difficulty.


Luffy learned FS vs Katakuri and reached his level. All within a few hours.

Zoro has already unconsciously used the ability. All that's left is taming it.


Issho has consistently fared worse against High Tiers.


Nah, Zoro's Admiral opponent is Borsalino.

Show me one time Zoro clashed with a named attack from Kaido and came out on top? By your logic Brook > Big Mom

Issho fought stronger individuals.

Luffy is different he knew about the ability, and he saw how it worked so he just focused on it until he was able to get a handle of it. Zoro doesn’t even know he can use any CoC. If Luffy went from no CoO to Future sight in one night you’d have a solid comparison but he didn’t.

Yes... Zoros fighting the light man instead of the swordsman EOS... genius...

 

[Julius]

not interesting.

Oda needs to nerf zoro to make him equal with sanji.

poor sanji lol.

pretty similar condition during arlong arc when zoro vs hachi

Thats like saying Oda nerfs Sanji by not making him use swords to fight, or his hands, Zoro didn't get nerfed, he is badly hurt because of what he managed to accomplish (this would happen anyway) using his full potential at that especific moment, you could say Oda choose to not give Zoro more feats for now by making him getting wrecked by trying to hold up a stupidly strong attack, and thats obvious since there are other characters in the story, Strawhat or not

 

[Un-amed]

Thats like saying Oda nerfs Sanji by not making him use swords to fight, or his hands, Zoro didn't get nerfed, he is badly hurt because of what he managed to accomplish, you could say Oda choose to not give Zoro more feats for now by making him getting wrecked by trying to hold up a stupidly strong attack, and thats obvious since there are other characters in the story, Strawhat or not

They just want a Zoro Piece... XDXD
More feats for Zoro??? i mean, why?? XDXD
He has already done a lot XD

 

[Finalbeta]

Imagine believing that Hybrid Kaido focusing on Zoro alone would low diff him when it partially took the channeled efforts of two yonko to afford the job funnily.