Powers & Abilities How Asura Works (it's a very complicated process)

draganax

draganax

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Charlotte Horchata said:
That's the shit writing because he obviously wasn't meant to be using "haki", let alone advanced forms of it, back in Arabasta.



This is called poorly explained concepts and lazy retconning.
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i don't see how that would be considered shitty writing when a lot of people throughout the series has been portrayed to perform strong haki feats upon their blooming moments, like luffy suddenly using internal destruction, coby/momonosuke developing an island level observation, that little girl in skypia...

compared to luffy (future sight, internal destruction, advanced CoC, maybe gear4), zoro only had two haki blooms, first in alabasta against mr 1 and the second against kaku in EL and because he didn't understand them at the time he would only use them at specific life or death situations

asura: unconscious application of advanced haki concepts
iai (shishi sonsong/rashomon): the power to cut anything, and it's also the ability to cut fire
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Zoro D Goat said:
Your sketch drawings is way more organized than Oda drawing Zoro's Asura against Kaku and Kaido.
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LMAO, please...
 
Finalbeta

Finalbeta

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#22
#22
Charlotte Horchata said:
That's the shit writing because he obviously wasn't meant to be using "haki", let alone advanced forms of it, back in Arabasta.



This is called poorly explained concepts and lazy retconning.
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To be honest Zoro probably didn't use penetration judging off the way he reacted to Luffy on the rooftop. The Grandmaster can still turn much more potent that wise eventually. About Coo, yes, no doubt.
 
draganax

draganax

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Zoro D Goat said:
Let's be fair, Nen is way better and more organized than Haki.
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that's for sure

i fell like oda is giving information about haki little by little, because he's afraid if he gave everything in one arc, it'll be very obvious that haki is deeply inspired from nen

i'm even starting to think that people will be able of waterwalking with haki (naruto), oden in the anime was flying (DBZ)
 
Warchief Sanji D Goat

Warchief Sanji D Goat

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draganax said:
that's for sure

i fell like oda is giving information about haki little by little, because he's afraid if he gave everything in one arc, it'll be very obvious that haki is deeply inspired from nen

i'm even starting to think that people will be able of waterwalking with haki (naruto), oden in the anime was flying (DBZ)
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It's possible.
 
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We already know this. Two things, Vivre Card: There are martial arts based on Haki, and two: Luffy told Rayleigh he had seen Haki many times before. So yeah, anything pre TS can probably be turned into Haki if it wasn't a DF. Watch how Paulie was secretly a CoA master with his ropes.
 
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Herrera95

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Is not bad but you fail hard at CoC and your edited part.

CoC was never said to make illusion. This is not Genjutsu from Naruto.

You should workout. You would probably understand that imagination is way different from subconscious. Haki is not about imagination, imagining only helps you to learn. When working out imagining the muscle you are working on moving helps to isolate the work on them and improve your technique. Haki is similar, imagining the flow or where you will get hit helps you to really understand how it works. Once you master it your subcounscious do it without effort without requiring you to imagine things.
 
draganax

draganax

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Herrera95 said:
Is not bad but you fail hard at CoC and your edited part.

CoC was never said to make illusion. This is not Genjutsu from Naruto.

You should workout. You would probably understand that imagination is way different from subconscious. Haki is not about imagination, imagining only helps you to learn. When working out imagining the muscle you are working on moving helps to isolate the work on them and improve your technique. Haki is similar, imagining the flow or where you will get hit helps you to really understand how it works. Once you master it your subcounscious do it without effort without requiring you to imagine things.
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well, observation and armament are quite different from each other, while observation works on both conscious (searshing for someone) and subconscious (react to opponent's will) levels , you can strengthen it by going in a state of concentration and focus, while in regards to armament it's entirely conscious process, your body won't harden itself on it's own, and your haki won't flow outside of your body without your permission.

in some rare cases haki can activate unconsciously as a response to dangerous situations in the form of haki bloom triggers by survival instinct.

if you want your haki to take the shape of a demon, first you must establish a mental image of that demon through imagination, otherwise the haki would just flow shapelessly around your body or just completely disperse.

isn't it weird that luffy never showcased the ability to create the haki barrier and only used internal destruction that was given to him through survival instinct, when luffy tried to use haki barrier after hyo told him about the flow, he was imagining the haki flow through his body and into his fist which it did but it didn't have the same effect like when hyo and rayleigh used it because luffy didn't imagine it to be an invisible armor or a barrier.
also luffy needs to close his eyes and concentrate to do that



that could also explain why the version of ACoC that luffy used was crude and clumsy according to kaido.

CoC can influence creatures/people's minds, we saw on multiple occasion that CoC can be used to tame wild beasts, gain allies, and intimidate opponents or completely overwhelm them to the point where they lose consciousness, i'll even dare to say that it can be used to raise your allies morale during battle, if a conqueror wants people to see him as a demon CoC should make that possible.
 
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