Chapter Discussion Oden is 100% Samurai Luffy

No he doesnt. At least it aint a handicap. To the point where the rest of the crew actively have to make preperation or be wary when he leaves the ship.
back in syrup village, nami pushed zoro down the oil slope while luffy charged to the other slope first. Zoro still made it there before luffy.
in skypiea he was able to go donw a straight line though, but still the completely wrong way.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
back in syrup village, nami pushed zoro down the oil slope while luffy charged to the other slope first. Zoro still made it there before luffy.
in skypiea he was able to go donw a straight line though, but still the completely wrong way.
Didnt he hear the wrong location before he went ?
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
yes and no, usopp didnt tell him any location, but he also didnt tell zoro. In skypiea, luffy did know the direction (to him south = warm though whereass north = up for zoro in alabasta)
Odens case is more severe if hes getting lost in wano where hes been all his life.
 
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Shura

Oden DOES NOT tell anyone to follow him... He just passes through places and people around him choose to follow him because he doesn't object... This is actually more like Zoro... This is how Johnny and yosaku back in east blue decided to follow Zoro....That's also how Yasu in Wano just decided to follow Zoro from seeing him do his shit and Zoro never asks any of these guys to follow him unlike Luffy but definitely like Oden
Luffy didn't ask to follow him. He asked them to become his nakama. You are mistaking following with become nakama. He didn't ask SHGF to follow him.

If you go by that way Zoro didn't ask to be in Luffy ship like Oden asked WB to take him in his ship.

Guess you completely omitted ID/MF from your memory where people followed Luffy on their accord. Heck even WB asked his crew mates to pave a way for Luffy.

Posthawk himself described Luffy's great ability.

Zoro's has charisma but it is nothing compared to Luffy. Heck even similar incidents are there for every SH. Each SH is/was leader of their own group with an exception of Robin.

Franky in water 7/DR.
Usopp with giants in EL/DR.
Sanji with G5 in PH.
Chopper with mink tribe.
Jimbei with FP.

etc.
 
Oden is 100% Samurai Luffy.

Oden is exactly like Luffy with a different fighting style.

1)Oden is obsessed with freedom like Luffy. He always wanted to be a pirate since he was a child like Luffy.

2)Oden has Conquerors Haki like Luffy

3)Oden has Voice of All Things like Luffy

4) Oden has Charisma to attract allies like Luffy and charm people

5)Oden was age 19 when he took over Udon and defeated Shutenmaru like, Luffy is age 19 right now taking out the Yonko.

6)Oden became Damaiyo at age 20, like Luffy will become Pirate King at age 20.

7) Oden has 9 Scabbards like Luffy has 9 Strawhats.

8) He causes chaos wherever he goes like Luffy.

9) Zero Navigational skills, kir Luffy

10) His trademark catchphrase" It's too Cramped"was said by Luffy in Dressrossa.

11) He likes Adventure like Luffy


There has not been 1 place Luffy has visited without being in chaos, just like Oden.

Kozuki clan is 100% a secret D like Trafalgar Law's family.


Oden is 100% Samurai Luffy

Roger was also a Swordsman, so the Swordsman Zoro parallel does not wor
 
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At this rate the only thing you may say Oden resembles Zoro sanji is home being a swordma ; womanizer and natural freak as BM...

He is 100% the middle generation version of Roger and Luffy.
Havibg boh VoAT and Coc, Adventurous, charismatic even making his enemies his allies wihtout asking them, Can't sail on his own coz he sucks at navigation, talented as hell, also SEEKS FREEDOM MORE THAN ANYTHING, HE DOESNT CARE ABOUT BEING THE STRONGEST or BRAVEST OR HERO.
 
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Lack of Navigation skills
Navigation skills =/= sense of direction

Tremendous endurance and Will even though he doesn't have any devil fruit or special abilities
More like that WBP cheering scene reminded of ID when Luffy is fighting for life all the prisoners are cheering. Will or endurance has nothing to do with special abilities/DF

The fact that he seems like he's not one to follow others but still isn't the captain.
Actually good point and only one fair comparison other than Oden being swordsman. Fair enough. But still Zoro didn't ask for Luffy to take him to his ship.

He even encountered an octoman like Zoro
what this has anything to do with parallelism. Next what? both has two legs, two hands and two eyes etc.
 
Oden is a mix of both, Zoro and Luffy. Oden has a personality similar to Luffy's personality and has a fighting style similar to Zoro's fighting style. But Zoro's parallels with Oden are more similar in terms of situations.
Nope, Luffy parallels Oden in terms of situations. Oden going through trials by Whitebeard is similar to Luffy's childhood as well.

Roger and Shanks are also Swordsman, so the Zoro parallel does not work.

Luffy has to survive the dangerous wilderness becoms Ace's friend

Chapters 581- 589

Luffy was born strong. Luffy had been coasting on his natural physical strength in base.

If you go back and read chapter 1, you will see Luffy only spent time working on his devil fruit control since he was a kid.

Also read from chapter 581-589.

He never lifted weights until Wano.

He left Dawn Island in the East Blue the weakest sea in the world, stronger than Enel, Arlong and Crocodile -a Warlord of the sea.

He was warlord level in the east blue. Not inly that, but he Mid-Diffed Arlong in the manga, a pirate from the grandline.

All he did with the logia was touch them.

Look at what Luffy dealing with at the age of 7.

He even went a week in the wild all by himself

https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/581

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https://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/584
 
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This chapter showed that Oden is actually more like Zoro.

- Lack of Navigation skills
- Tremendous endurance and Will even though he doesn't have any devil fruit or special abilities
- The fact that he seems like he's not one to follow others but still isn't the captain.
- He even encountered an octoman like Zoro
You know that Luffy doesnt follow other too right?

Navigation skills isnt sense of direction as getting lost on foot like Zoro
Oden failed sailing on the seas as luffy did on his own

Lol Luffy zoro and all Strawhat met a octoman anyway

Zoro doeent have endurance anymore; he faints after one stab, oden can go days without eating
Lufdy went though many hell as a kid.

Stop writing stuff just to write.
 
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