Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1014 Spoilers Discussion

[Strawhats Bible]

Luffy himself said his hits were shallow.

I won't be arguing semantics but yes they were too shallow to actually defeat Kaido not damage him, Kaido was litreally dodging some ordinary Red Hawk from Luffy.
You can argue Zoro did way more damage than most of Luffy's attack but the amount of hits Luffy actually got on Kaido has to at least equal the damage.
Kaido brushed off Zoro's attack despite it leaving a scar just like he brushed off Luffy's punches after being knocked down several times.

 

[Julius]

Because Oda doesn't give a fuck

He does, look how Page One and Ulti needed Big Mom to get beaten, Nami and Usopp have no chance against them (for now), Chopper is on another level already, but let's wait and see...

 

[HA001]

I'm just telling you what Kaido said, shallow hits damaged him and later on Luffy landed even heavier hits with CoC.

Shallow hits he heals from after no time. Just like the scabbrds togen totska.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

straw hat will be the best in the world at what they do

Fuck that shit. We dont need the best cook or the best navigator to be a fuckin yonko

You fuckin know I’m talling about combat ability and not nonsense like best archeologists or whatever

Fuckin Usopp will not be Yonko level at 50 years old

 

[Ravagerblade]

Luffy got his teeth knocked out in a serious fight and grew them back as a gag.

Zoro is known to sleep off grizzly wounds. Right now he's sleeping and it's being treated as a gag, with comically oversized bandage wrap. I don't think Zoro really even drinks milk to drag that joke back out, but Oda can definitely make his process hilariously simple.

I get what you mean, but you're not getting what I mean.

 

[Jailer]

He does, look how Page One and Ulti needed Big Mom to get beaten, Nami and Usopp have no chance against them (for now), Chopper is on another level already, but let's wait and see...

That's why he isn't beating Queen either not sure what some people are smoking. But his feat in Monster form holding a Commander outclasses all of the weak trio by far, Monster form is no joke he neg diffed a CP9 once he used that form.

 

[Admiral Mou Bu]

Damn, KAIDO just killed someone at the KIZARU level, drowned him.​

Kaido = Kizaru >> Luffy

 

[HA001]

I won't be arguing semantics but yes they were too shallow to actually defeat Kaido not damage him, Kaido was litreally dodging some ordinary Red Hawk from Luffy.
You can argue Zoro did way more damage than most of Luffy's attack but the amount of hits Luffy actually got on Kaido has to at least equal the damage.
Kaido brushed off Zoro's attack despite it leaving a scar just like he brushed off Luffy's punches after being knocked down several times.

No they were too shallow to do proper damage. Or else he would have won with acoc hits not got offscreened

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Of course you think that
You are biased

I’m biased that the only two people who actually value their physical strength and want to achieve more of it, will be the people most likely to keep getting stronger after EoS?

Like What will Nami and Brook be doing training after EoS? What will Sanji be doing training as he sets up his restaurant EoS?

 

[Strawhats Bible]

What? Good lord what?
We literally just learned there was a crew above the pirate king crew like 100 chapters ago and already you are claiming that Luffy is also destined to surpass them

Question: Did Roger even surpass Rocks? Remember that Roger fought Rocks like 20 years before he died. Did the Roger pirates surpass the Rocks crew?

You are not understanding what I am trying to say.
The Rocks as CREW is always gonna be weaker than the Strawhat CREW by EOS simply because they don't function as a unity but rather some strong individuals that looks for their own interests. Which was probably the reason Rocks crew failed in the first place.
They are not a proper crew just like the Blackbeard Pirates but rather strong individuals seeking their own agenda.
Crews like this are always bound to fail.

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Current Chopper beats Sanji and Jinbei until they both get better feats

Im serious about this

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Kaido = Kizaru >> Luffy

KAIDO is the strongest guy in the world.
KAIDO >> EVERYONE.

kizaru = akainu.

 

[Strawhats Bible]

No they were too shallow to do proper damage. Or else he would have won with acoc hits not got offscreened

He wouldn't because Luffy is not the strongest creature in the world and as Kaido said just learned a new trick.
Again Kaido was getting damaged as we have seem he himself say on chapter 1001 and by dodging Luffy attacks on 1009.
Won't be arguing facts from the manga, sorry.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Current Chopper beats Sanji and Jinbei until they both get better feats

Im serious about this

Of course

 

[Worst]

KAIDO is the strongest guy in the world.
KAIDO >> EVERYONE.

kizaru = akainu.

Yea Kaido proved what he had to prove...

 

[HA001]

He wouldn't because Luffy is not the strongest creature in the world and as Kaido said just learned a new trick.
Again Kaido was getting damaged as we have seem he himself say on chapter 1001 and by dodging Luffy attacks on 1009.
Won't be arguing facts from the manga, sorry.

The scabbards hurt him. Still didn't do anything significant. Same as luffy.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Yea Kaido proved what he had to prove...

He has this habit of putting the strongest in the world matched with other characters, the strongest is the strongest, he is in a league above.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

You are not understanding what I am trying to say.
The Rocks as CREW is always gonna be weaker than the Strawhat CREW by EOS simply because they don't function as a unity but rather some strong individuals that looks for their own interests. Which was probably the reason Rocks crew failed in the first place.
They are not a proper crew just like the Blackbeard Pirates but rather strong individuals seeking their own agenda.
Crews like this are always bound to fail.

You did not answer the question

i dont care about your “unity”... I’m talking about who would win in a fight

the same way Roger and whitebeard’s crews fought each other and Roger’s pirate king crew got stalemates by little kids on Whitebeard’s crew... Would Roger’s crew 20 years after beating rocks, Come out on top?

20 years of Training for Roger’s crew, do they still beat Rocks?

 

[Kurozumi Giggio]

The actual chapter is probably gonna show x drake + chopper + apoo vs queen

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Kizaru would almost definitely have done better than Luffy there