Questions & Mysteries Shilliew/ Burgess vs Sanji/zoro

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  • sanji vs burgess

    Votes: 13 43.3%
  • zoro vs burgess

    Votes: 4 13.3%
  • sanji vs shilliew

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • zoro v shilliew

    Votes: 21 70.0%

  • Total voters
    30
#81
Yeah and that member is Pink Beard
Sure as long as he is the strongest behind blackbeard
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If Shiliew >> Burgess then Zoro will fight Shiliew and Sanji will fight Burgess

If Burgess >> Shiliew then Zoro will fight Burgess and Sanji will fight Shiliew

That's all there is to it... No need to try and pretend there's any other way Oda makes these things
 
#82
Sure as long as he is the strongest behind blackbeard
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If Shiliew >> Burgess then Zoro will fight Shiliew and Sanji will fight Burgess

If Burgess >> Shiliew then Zoro will fight Burgess and Sanji will fight Shiliew

That's all there is to it... No need to try and pretend there's any other way Oda makes these things
Pretty sure it make them equals end of the day, but from how it's going, Sanji will face Shiryu as again you guys debate hard on Zoro always takes on 'First Mate' type of guy. If so, you can't ignored it now over Burgess just because he got beaten. It is how it is and just because he is beaten by Sabo, doesn't mean Zoro can easily take him as he isn't Sabo lvl to being with XD.
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German 66 nazi stmbol, warmongers science.
Again think they are more based on Kamen Rider genre given how Oda reference that more and doing in their style.
 
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#83
Sure as long as he is the strongest behind blackbeard
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If Shiliew >> Burgess then Zoro will fight Shiliew and Sanji will fight Burgess

If Burgess >> Shiliew then Zoro will fight Burgess and Sanji will fight Shiliew

That's all there is to it... No need to try and pretend there's any other way Oda makes these things
Based on jabra and kaku, it' s more Like 2200 >=2180 doriki, not >>>>>>>, stop pretending Zoro and his enemies are above sanji.
 
#85
Pretty sure it make them equals end of the day, but from how it's going, Sanji will face Shiryu as again you guys debate hard on Zoro always takes on 'First Mate' type of guy. If so, you can't ignored it now over Burgess just because he got beaten. It is how it is and just because he is beaten by Sabo, doesn't mean Zoro can easily take him as he isn't Sabo lvl to being with XD.
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zoro takes on the second strongest
 
#88
Pretty sure it make them equals end of the day, but from how it's going, Sanji will face Shiryu as again you guys debate hard on Zoro always takes on 'First Mate' type of guy
If Shiryu is stronger than Burgess or vice versa then Zoro will fight the stronger of the two and Sanji will fight the weaker of the two
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Based on jabra and kaku, it' s more Like 2200 >=2180 doriki, not >>>>>>>, stop pretending Zoro and his enemies are above sanji.
You mean Mr 1 or Kaku or Ryuma or Hyouzo or Pica weren't the second strongest?
 
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#89
If Shiryu is stronger than Burgess or vice versa then Zoro will fight the stronger of the two and Sanji will fight the weaker of the two
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You mean Mr 1 or Kaku or Ryuma or Hyouzo or Pica weren't the second strongest?
Sanji can beat any of them and his enemies are un there with zoros enemies, manga facts
 
#90
If Shiryu is stronger than Burgess or vice versa then Zoro will fight the stronger of the two and Sanji will fight the weaker of the two
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You mean Mr 1 or Kaku or Ryuma or Hyouzo or Pica weren't the second strongest?
That will never be indicated as both on how Oda going are kinda left and right hands for BB from the looks of it and equals, but again Burgess is First Mate, so going with your logic, Zoro will face him. No exceptions as Sanji get's Shiryu in the end, so you can't pick and choose because you don't like so far on Burgess side.
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Sorry for the late reply I was kind of busy here.

You never countered me, that a fact and you can't counter facts, that's why you're ignoring my point and being a Chicken wuss as always LOL. You are not even good in making excuses Jester Moe. :gokulaugh:





Sanji was Neg Diffed by all of them, he didn't even touch Drake, I didn't even mention Drake because it's not worth it, all Sanji did was meet Drake's tail LOL Like I said when a strong opponent appears to Sanji he's Neg Diffed, unlike Zoro who always faces stronger opponents head to head as it was with Kuma for example.
again:

Vergo - Sanji got a broken leg

Doflamingo - Sanji Neg Diffed

Daifuku - Don't even think about it, it never Happened only in Moe Piece that's Carrot's role in One Piece I already told you :kata:

Oven - Sanji saved Chiffon and ran away from the fight, he's weak.

Page One - Sanji had 97% irrelevant fights and weak opponents, Page One is part of the 3% But no one saw the fight, no one even knows what happened in the fight. :cheers:



Chicken wuss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Zoro defeated Killer in a 2 x 1 fight, there is a reason Zoro fainted, Zoro is not a weak ass that lack of Koka and gets a broken leg for it. after that Zoro neg diffed Gyuukimaru

Take the L again.



Sanji has NEVER faced a stronger opponent than Zoro's opponent and will NEVER face, you ignoring my point won't help your case. :wellwell: Shiryu is a swordsman and he will be Zoro's opponent, all swordsmen with exception of Shanks will be Zoro's opponents, Lanji has to settle for Avalo Pizarro because Burges is for Jinbe, deal with it, you weak god is irrelevant :cheers:



If you bring that 'Political BS' again I will report you.
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LMAO I can feel the salty in your words Trump Moe, I don't care about politics say what you want, and report me if you want. Feel free to report me Chicken wuss, I don't care :cheers:

I'm arguing like an man without ignoring your lies points countering all the lies you're used to tell in order to wank Sanji but with me it doesn't work, your lies have no effect on me, Jester... I'm anti lies I'm using facts and throwing the L in your face. Like I said before Zoro low diffed Killer in a 2x1 fight meanwhile San

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This is what happens when Sanji faces a stronger opponent, he is miserably defeated while Zoro faces everyone head to head.
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I am just gonna take this victory since you done nothing to disprove me and still doing Political BS as usual. Jester Kyo.

I am still waiting where Sanji fainted in his fights unlike Zoro with his. Thanks for ignoring that and lol all those moments is just Sanji fighting and tanking unlike Zoro who faints the moment you hit him once as ask Hody, Yeti Brothers, and Kamazou on that regard. Your getting saltier the more you trying to enforce this as you know this is all your Disney Headcannon
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Again bring facts that Loro has beaten a credible opponent, not hider and seeker Pica and nerfer Kamazou. He couldn't even beat Gyukimaro as that image isn't end of the fight you fool XD
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Sanji never lost a fight with anyone except Doffy while Zoro been taking Ls since start of NW. Again come back when your idol stops fainting and can do shit like Sanji and Luffy on durability and stamina. Don't come back here with that copy-paste shit. Your as low as ZoroGang nowadays and hardly trying to be creative. Though your an Zoro-Brainer, so make sense as your like your 'idol' being lost in the end as usual.

End results is that Sanji is getting stronger while Zoro is getting weaker to the point he faints more occasionally now. Sanji vs Shiryu is building up and make sense while loser side can be Zoro facing weaklings until helps arrives to help him since his fragile ass won't do shit until big time comes around.

Again, come back when you got evidence that Zoro has beaten credible threats in PT and aren't hide and seekers and nerfers. If you can't then take this argument to my side since all you can do is troll and be an 'Trump' guy since you love talking about your agenda :kata::pepelit:.
 
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#91
Shiryu did a Japanese samurai expression when he killed the prison guards ( Kiri-sute gomen ) It’s similar to the practice of the shady Wano magistrate who killed random people in the streets. he also has a Meito named "Raiu - Thunderstorm". him and Zoro were imprisoned before their captains freed them to recruit them. many connections between the two are there.

Shiryu is the only member Teach asked straightforwardly to join him


evil Luffy and evil Zoro


 
#92
Shiryu did a Japanese samurai expression when he killed the prison guards ( Kiri-sute gomen ) It’s similar to the practice of the shady Wano magistrate who killed random people in the streets. he also has a Meito named "Raiu - Thunderstorm". him and Zoro were imprisoned before their captains freed them to recruit them. many connections between the two are there.

Shiryu is the only member Teach asked straightforwardly to join him


evil Luffy and evil Zoro


If so, why is he Captain of 2nd Ship while Burgess has 1st Ship though, so again First Mate title is more taken and he is more Sanji to join around as even has qualities to relate to him more.
 
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stealthblack

#93
If Shiryu is stronger than Burgess or vice versa then Zoro will fight the stronger of the two and Sanji will fight the weaker of the two
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You mean Mr 1 or Kaku or Ryuma or Hyouzo or Pica weren't the second strongest?
Tekkai was much harder then Mr 1 body and jabra was the Best tekkai user yet sanji had no probleme beating him, If invisible shilliew îs Zoro enemy eos, that shows You how good pre te Zoro would deal with invisibility. Sanji easily kicked wadatsumi that was much bigger the golem pica
 
#98
If so, why is he Captain of 2nd Ship while Burgess has 1st Ship though, so again First Mate title is more taken and he is more Sanji to join around as even has qualities to relate to him more.
Captain number mean nothing.

Sanji will fight Teach's left hand who is most likely Avalo Pizzaro the North Blue corrupt King. both have European based themes and "Avalo" is a Spanish reference to "avaro" which mean miser, while Sanji is naturally generous to everyone with food, even animals.

we have one swordsman with samurai themes and another guy who's a North Blue royalty

i don't think Oda will waste this opportunity
 
#99
Captain number mean nothing.

Sanji will fight Teach's left hand who is most likely Avalo Pizzaro the North Blue corrupt King. both have European based themes and "Avalo" is a Spanish reference to "avaro" which mean miser, while Sanji is naturally generous to everyone with food, even animals.

we have one swordsman with samurai themes and another guy who's a North Blue royalty

i don't think Oda will waste this opportunity
Ehhh....Not seeing it especially coincidence Oda did in giving both Shiryu invisibility status in upcoming events, that can't be without him planning something. Plus both have similar traits from smoking, smart fighters, outfits, etc..

Avalo might be more Franky style of opponent or Jimbei, but not Sanji as no buildup as much with him.
 
I find it hilarious that some people are STILL on the train that Burgess is among the Top 2 commanders in BB pirates.

Burgess will be Franky's opponent. That's as much as I can go for him.

Regarding Shiliew, he will be Zoro's opponent.
In fact, Zoro will have to give props to Sanji a LOT because during their stupid gag clashes, that's how Zoro will get accustomed into fighting an invisible man. Naturally, with Shiliew, it will be to a bigger degree because it's an actual DF, not just a suit ability. Cause with awakening, he can take invisibility into next level.

So, I think Sanji attaining the invisibility is not meant for him to clash with Shiliew, rather, it's one of the ways for Zoro to continue have his rivalry with Sanji, and fighting each others on the side for Zoro to actually get better in observation haki to allow him to improve in that area, in preparation to face Shiliew.

let's not forget that Zoro's end goal, Mihawk is called "hawkeye", and he was supposed to be called "clairvoyant" something HAS TO BE observation haki related. So, I firmly believe that both Zoro and Sanji at this current moment, they both specialize in their area (amrmanet and observation) and they showed good level of haki in their specialty.

HOWEVER, Zoro showed weak observation so far. While, Sanji showed weak armament haki so far.

In return, Oda imo intends to make Zoro and Sanji rivalry in the upcoming events to elevate their level in the haki that they are weak with.

Meaning, through the silly encounters Zoro and Sanji will have, Zoro will elevate his level of observation. While, Sanji will elevate his level of armament haki.

BUT BY NO MEANS, it will be Burgess to face Sanji LOL

I personally think it's either the 10th captain that Oda still has not revealed yet.

OR, my old theory, it's Avalo Pizzaro, who I have big theory about him being Sanji's opponent

Regarding Burgess, as I stated, he will be Franky, as both are actually "boxing champions" LOL, and both have their weird pose trying to act masculine and stuff.

While Jinbe will face Vasco Shot, who I have a big evidence that Vasco Shot is an ACTUAL FISHMAN. Which makes him perfect for Jinbe
 
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