Show it then, the only proof that you have is that BB might want to get a Thirdd df (a zoan probably) which isn't even confirmed. Hell, we don't even know if his boddy can handle 3 dfs it's just a theory based on the skulls on his flag. And even if it is true we don't even know if he wants Kaido's Ui Ui no Mi. So yeah, basically you are prooflesss. But if you think that I am wrong post here the panels that support your theory. Even a hint that shows that BB wants to go to Wano. I'll wait.
Speculations Why Zoro's only opponent in this arc is Kaido and why he is in the same situation as Luffy.
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The simplest explanation is that Zoro was implicitly excluded from the "you guys".
I mean Luffy did not complain when he saw Zoro on the Rooftop. Zoro heading to the Rooftop was never written as defying captain's orders. No other Strawhat complained when Zoro expressed his desire to go to the Rooftop. They did not criticise him for going against Luffy's instructions.
Oda clearly did not intend for Zoro heading to the Rooftop to be in defiance of Luffy, so that can be ruled out. If we assume that Luffy was not including Zoro in his address, this makes sense.
I mean Luffy did not complain when he saw Zoro on the Rooftop. Zoro heading to the Rooftop was never written as defying captain's orders. No other Strawhat complained when Zoro expressed his desire to go to the Rooftop. They did not criticise him for going against Luffy's instructions.
Oda clearly did not intend for Zoro heading to the Rooftop to be in defiance of Luffy, so that can be ruled out. If we assume that Luffy was not including Zoro in his address, this makes sense.
Luffy didn't have a magical healer in WCI to fight Queen after beating Katakuri. Zoro on the other hand is heading for that magical healer(Marco)
If Marco was at 100% sure, but it's not the case. Oda found a way to weaken him, which was the point of him wasting his blue flames to protect samurais on the live floor, with King and Queen ganging up on him
Latest chapter even emphasized in the single panel we saw of him, that he is getting tired. So it could have been an opportunity for Oda to show off King by gaining the advantage over the weakened Marco without making Marco look bad
On the other hand, if Marco manages to beat King even after all this, it'd be a disrespect for King's position as Kaido's strongest commander.
If Marco was at 100% sure, but it's not the case. Oda found a way to weaken him, which was the point of him wasting his blue flames to protect samurais on the live floor, with King and Queen ganging up on him
Latest chapter even emphasized in the single panel we saw of him, that he is getting tired. So it could have been an opportunity for Oda to show off King by gaining the advantage over the weakened Marco without making Marco look bad
On the other hand, if Marco manages to beat King even after all this, it'd be a disrespect for King's position as Kaido's strongest commander.
Yeah Oda is setting up the pieces for Zoro and Luffy to finally beat Kaido. Im not so sure about BM and Law/kidd; Dnt see them heavily injuring the hag, but could stall her or even force her to retreat. I do believe Luffy will beat her, but I guess that'll be after this arc. The reason I felt Zoro vs King wont happen was because we have no real weight behind that specific matchup. They havent even met yet, or see King even talk about Zoro. Either Marco defeats King, or Zoro one shots him. I like Chopper, but its looking like he will heal Zoro since he cant really hurt Queen(unless those risks are another PU). Zoro only matchup should be Kaido, like Luffy didnt defeat Jack as a warmup, but instead went for Kaido. Both reasons show why Zoro and Luffy didnt face Jack or King as of now, is because theres no weight behind that matchup. Oda doesnt have time, they would either one shot them or not face them at all, theyre fight was always Kaido and Orochi. Orochi is a bum, so it was really only Kaido. Both Luffy and Zoro are meant to be the saviors of Wano. Marco even said to Zoro, hes meant to be on the main stage; King aint it.
Watching the recent OP episode we see Toki die and her say the prophecy... Was she referring to Momo(Moon), the red scabbards(9 shadows), and Zoro(dawn)? Will Kaido get defeated/killed at dawn as well?
Watching the recent OP episode we see Toki die and her say the prophecy... Was she referring to Momo(Moon), the red scabbards(9 shadows), and Zoro(dawn)? Will Kaido get defeated/killed at dawn as well?
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Neither Marco nor chopper can heal zoro from what we know
chopper
using normal monster point for 3 fucking minutes takes him out for hours
now hes boosted it to half an hour hes only gonna be fucked for even longer in less than 10 mins
so he aint doing shit
marco
first thing his flames ARE NOT AS EFFECTIVE ON OTHERS
his flames use the stamina of the patient to heal what they can zoro has none right now
now lets pretend your fantasies were true and he could we know for a fact his flames are limited
marcos flames which are limited HAVE BEEN USED ALL THIS TIME
so once again explain to me WHICH ONE OF THESE WILL HEAL HIM AND HOW ?
now hes boosted it to half an hour hes only gonna be fucked for even longer in less than 10 mins
so he aint doing shit
marco
his flames use the stamina of the patient to heal what they can zoro has none right now
now lets pretend your fantasies were true and he could we know for a fact his flames are limited
marcos flames which are limited HAVE BEEN USED ALL THIS TIME
so once again explain to me WHICH ONE OF THESE WILL HEAL HIM AND HOW ?
It is not about the level of the attack because the barrier nullifies it anyway.
It is how many attacks he is facing at the same time - more attacks are more troublesome.
Two attackers could produce 2 attack sources each, he already needs 4 barriers for that and he cant do that...
That automatically puts him into a worse situation than facing one attack source from Kaido.
He would either get hit which is asking for Kaido's skin or he would have to move completely out of harm's way.
It is how many attacks he is facing at the same time - more attacks are more troublesome.
Two attackers could produce 2 attack sources each, he already needs 4 barriers for that and he cant do that...
That automatically puts him into a worse situation than facing one attack source from Kaido.
He would either get hit which is asking for Kaido's skin or he would have to move completely out of harm's way.
Why Zoro will fight Kaido:
- Multiple parallels with Ryuma
- Parallels with Oden + Oden's sword
- 2nd most panel time in this arc after Luffy
- The only strawhat other than Luffy, who trained and got a power up
- The anime doesn't even bother to make eyecatchers for the rest of the crew, lot's of focus on Zoro and Luffy
It's very weird. For some of them Kaido dying wouldn't make sense unless BB magically appears to steal his fruit killing him during the process. That kind of bias is weird asf.
Trusting a theory that makes sense and has a lot of foreshadow and paralells:
Trusting a theory that has 0 foreshadow and 0 sense whatsoever but fits your agenda:
Trusting a theory that makes sense and has a lot of foreshadow and paralells:
Trusting a theory that has 0 foreshadow and 0 sense whatsoever but fits your agenda:
Your scenarios get debunked by the simple fact that Kid and Law wont be able to do that against BM, Marco is needed in this fight, therefore, he wont fight King until the end.
And it seems you didnt read some chapters. Zoro would need DOZENS of his best technique in the same place to cut Kaido's head. It's like thinking that a normal human could cut a huge trunk with a move (manually, with an axe)... impossible. Much more impossible in the situation with Zoro barely standing up.
And it seems you didnt read some chapters. Zoro would need DOZENS of his best technique in the same place to cut Kaido's head. It's like thinking that a normal human could cut a huge trunk with a move (manually, with an axe)... impossible. Much more impossible in the situation with Zoro barely standing up.
@nik87 earlier in the thread you mentioned that Zoro would be infected with Queen's oni ice virus. Then Chopper's antidote would cure the virus and Zoro's broken bones. I don't understand how having a virus will mend broken bones? It seems like an unnecessary step to go through for healing broken bones. You don't need to explain how the virus works, but can you tell me what chapter or chapters featured Queen and his virus again? Thank you!
It seems that Oda has established that there is no quick fix for Zoro to reach a full recovery. Chopper will be down after fighting in monster point. Zoro is also too exhausted to be healed to full capacity by Marco's flames.
I don't know how it will happen because it seems that Oda struggles with juggling multiple battles in this war. I like to think that Luffy and Zoro will be out for a long time (perhaps several weeks to heal). Then while they are somewhere safe recovering, Oda focuses on Kidd, Killer, and Law defeating Big Mom. Then we can finally see Kidd with feats worthy of being the rival of the Pirate King without Luffy in the manga overshadowing him.
The only problem I can't get passed in my head canon is how Kaido will be stalled if Luffy and Zoro are recovering. I can see Yamato fighting Kaido but that won't be a fight that lasts for the amount of time Luffy and Zoro need to heal.
TL;DR I want Luffy and Zoro to actually need a long time to recover from their wonds, but I don't know how Oda will deal with Kaido in the meantime.
It seems that Oda has established that there is no quick fix for Zoro to reach a full recovery. Chopper will be down after fighting in monster point. Zoro is also too exhausted to be healed to full capacity by Marco's flames.
I don't know how it will happen because it seems that Oda struggles with juggling multiple battles in this war. I like to think that Luffy and Zoro will be out for a long time (perhaps several weeks to heal). Then while they are somewhere safe recovering, Oda focuses on Kidd, Killer, and Law defeating Big Mom. Then we can finally see Kidd with feats worthy of being the rival of the Pirate King without Luffy in the manga overshadowing him.
The only problem I can't get passed in my head canon is how Kaido will be stalled if Luffy and Zoro are recovering. I can see Yamato fighting Kaido but that won't be a fight that lasts for the amount of time Luffy and Zoro need to heal.
TL;DR I want Luffy and Zoro to actually need a long time to recover from their wonds, but I don't know how Oda will deal with Kaido in the meantime.