Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1015 Spoilers Discussion

[Roronoa-sama]

Maybe not yet, but they are in the same general area and Zoro will get treatment so that he can still contribute to the war as per Sanji's own words where he basically admited Zoro's worth by saying he'd be of value in combat going forward, while downplaying how valuable he is cuz of them liking to shit talk eachother

We have pretty good setup for Marco and King to exhaust each other for a bit while Zoro get's healed, and if through some means Marco ends up getting defeated, there would be no one left but Zoro to step up and defeat King

sanji vs queen was started when queen was talking about vismoke but in the case of king vs zoro the both doesn't have any interection. Zoro wants to be the wss while king isn't real sword (he never wanted to be stronger than oden, shanks or the god of sword). zoro vs king is a bad write

 

[duckman]

I just realized Zoro doesn’t consider himself stronger than he was at Zou.

He said he was worth 2000 men at Zou and still thinks he’s worth 2000 men on Onigashima.

He could scar Kaido straight out of the timeskip

Not yet. Zoro has still not indicated that he wants to defeat King, and vice versa.



I wouldn't actually care, but Oda wouldn't do it. Yamato isn't actually a transman. It wouldn't be "progressive" either, because it sends the message that you need to be born with male genitals to be a man. Kiku is a woman despite having a dick.

Yamato is also a woman.



If Ace joined the crew would he become weaker than Sanji?


Yamato should be ~ Ace in potential and current power.

Yes actually. Why do you all easily accept that Zoro is this beastly god, yet Sanji has to fight tooth and nail for every scrap of approval. And even so people will seek to downplay him. He has been portrayed as faster than Katakuri (yes he dodged a jelly bean but every other person in the manga seems unable to dodge Sanji's 'sneak attacks' while he easily dodged a future person's one), strong enough to break the bones of someone with Big Mom's body, crush Germa and their iron skin such that even normal methods couldn't fix it (hours of fighting the Big Mom pirates didn't lead to such damage), Counter Big Mom directly, and so on.

Even here people are asking where his AP came from. He's always had it.

But now is, would Ace be weaker than Sanji? Yes, yes he would. Why? If Oda wants it to be he would. Plus, if we're going on feats, Ace doesn't have the physicals to match Sanji regardless.

 

[R A I T E I I I]

I dont believe marco is gonna be humiliated again.

 

[Cinera]

Im sure she’s grown in power. What isn’t set in stone is the rate she grew over that time. Ace would have arguably grown more in those 2 years because he’d have been on the seas with more opportunity to grow than Yomato stuck in Wano. But that’s just arguable, it’s not like anyone can say definitively one way or the other.

Jimbe fought Ace to a standstill too but obviously he was older so I’m sure he grew much less in the amount of time after than Yamato did.

Yamato was cuffed back then and so could not transform.

Base Yamato 4 years ago was equal to all out Ace 4 years ago.

Im just saying if she was stronger then Ace after 2 years she wouldn't even need her devil fruit usage on sakaski

Yamato did not need her Devil Fruit for Sasaki.

Sasaki was shocked and sweating when he saw her oneshot the Number:

Sasaki could not hold a candle to Base Yamato.

He was only willing to face her when she was using her body as a meat shield for dead weight:

He then dared to raise his sword against her. Yamato simply replied to his insolence by baring her fangs at him, and Sasaki shit his pants:

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Base Yamato 4 years ago was equal to all out Ace 4 years ago.

Ace did not go all-out and you know this, ace only went all-out when facing WB in his rookie years and that was because he wanted to protect his crew

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You call failing to stop zoro negging? That's weird

This is exactly why I just ignore you now, when did he fail? zoro was the one damaged and bleeding from the 1v1

 

[Lukegranders]

Still it's a secondary villain in the arc and it's not even a 1on1. Him teaming up with Luffy to take down Kaido is way better than teaming up with Law, Luffy's chearleader, against Big Mom. As for the the plot line he has with Big Mom, we could do without it and I'm sure no one is hype or care about it in contrast yo his vengence against Kaido.

big mom and kaido are hyped as equals and not only that law is not gonna be in the fight till the end obviously

 

[Finalbeta]

Finally you realize Y~A :cheers:

Which Ace? Not that it fundamentally most likely matters since Ace was probably YC2 in his Prime and Zoan Yamato is most likely getting past that based off her potential growth since that time they fought and the zoan potential it might be entailed.

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it's called candy logic

Sugar vs Sugar free

 

[Peroroncino]

Ace did not go all-out and you know this, ace only went all-out when facing WB in his rookie years and that was because he wanted to protect his crew

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This is exactly why I just ignore you now, when did he fail? zoro was the one damaged and bleeding from the 1v1

when zoro jumped out of that and attacked him then got out of the hole ready to fight and don't be salty just because i'm the one always telling people to ignore you but nice try

 

[rerere]

At this point it's safe to say that the Numbers are just drunk af somewhere outside the dome
Queen was right:

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[Roronoa-sama]

@Cinera do you think like me than king vs zoro is a bad write

 

[Haoshoku]

When did Kaido shave his chin?

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[Cinera]

@Cinera do you think like me than king vs zoro is a bad write

It has no narrative as at now. If Oda wants to sell it, he has his work cut out for him.

 

[Peroroncino]

 

[Geo]

It don't need always to have hard battles.
The strawhats monstertrio learn complete new skills during a 2h train. Luffy master his Adv CoA in Udon without hard battles, just by training.

Sanji have 2month of time to became stronger. During that time he face the big mom pirates right after facing Doffy.
He fight Judge in a hard battle. He fight overall in Wci arc, he fight a veteran multiple times,he one shot a strong minister. He had so many experince and clashes. Luffy just get in 2days already stronger in Udon via training,before he try to learn adv CoA.

Sanji had same time as Luffy and Zoro,saying he didn't train? Improve after all the events is a dumb though.
Current Sanji should at least been one-two leagues above his DR version. Like Luffy improve and been 3-4 league above his previous DR Version.

Alone the fact that Sanji need now G4 power alone just by fighting a YC shows enough. WCi Luffy who was> DR Luffy need his G4 to fight back YC.
We talk about a dude with a bounty of 1.3B,a guy who Marco and Luffy himself even hype.

Doffy is the guy who could get matched by Base/G2 Luffy in physical aspect as @ODIAK D.TSEGNORTS pointed out, Wci Luffy in Base/G2/G3 get stomped by Cracker very fast, only with G4 Luffy was able to fight back.

And we speak about Queen who is most like>Cracker and Sanji match him.
You are delusion if you think that Sanji didn't get stronger since DR.

Comparing Sanji to Luffy and Zoro is laughable.
> Luffy actually had extreme diff matches which shows progression. He slept for 3 days after DR fighting and got an extreme diff fight with Katakuri.
> Luffy was actually shown getting extra abilities which again proves progression. Luffy got FS with Kuri then in Udon (life and death situation) got adCOA.
> Zoro never got pushed nor bested so his level was unknown. He also didn't even use his preskip ultimate which again proves his unknown level.
> Zoro was already overpowering an Admiral and shooting out haki (similar to Yamato) all the way back in PH and DR.
> The only time Zoro is actually said to progress is his training with Enma. Even then that is tied to his haki more than anything
> Zoro also got Adcoc which we actually see.

Now to Sanji;
> Was actually bested by multiple fighters in combat (Vergo, Doffy and Judge)
> Actually used his preskip power up and post skip ultimate technique in Fishman Island
> Hasn't been shown acquiring any new tech in haki.
> Hasn't been shown actually training new tech like Luffy with adCOA and Zoro with Enma
> Actually got another power up through RS as a reference to Niji mocking his limits in speed.

To claim that this Sanji should receive the same growth as Luffy is ridiculous.
To even claim that Zoro grew levels from DR to Wano is illogical

And to claim that Sanji would grow from getting low diffed by Doffy to being above him by literally not having any indication of power progression is plain wrong

 

[Dr_Professor83]

King has never looked better.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

It has no narrative as at now. If Oda wants to sell it, he has his work cut out for him.

but king isn't demostrated a respect about his sword (like shyriu)

he isn't swordman he only use a sword like cracker

 

[wereng99]

He cant even scar him now without pure luck and plot armor lol.

Understand that CoC is not part of Zoro's arsenal YET and that Zoro's Feats against Kaido werent really better than those of Killer, Law and many Scabbards. He just did more than them on screen, and thus is the only one that is mumified rn with 30 broken bones. He didnt "prove" to be > Killer, Law, the strongest Scabbards at all, he just proved he has balls.

If you see it this way then all character cant do shit without plot lol

 

[Rootbeer]

Zoro did some Black blade training by becoming Sanji's Supreme grade sword. Luffy's using VOAT while unconcious and Zoro is using BOAT while sleeping what a GOAT. ha ha

 

[Roronoa-sama]

King has never looked better.

king isn't a swordman

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Yamato was cuffed back then and so could not transform.

Base Yamato 4 years ago was equal to all out Ace 4 years ago.



Yamato did not need her Devil Fruit for Sasaki.

Sasaki was shocked and sweating when he saw her oneshot the Number:

Sasaki could not hold a candle to Base Yamato.

He was only willing to face her when she was using her body as a meat shield for dead weight:

He then dared to raise his sword against her. Yamato simply replied to his insolence by baring her fangs at him, and Sasaki shit his pants:

roronoa yamato

 

[Abysmal]

king isn't a swordman

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roronoa yamato

Why people saying that Zoro is Kaido's son