Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1015 Spoilers Discussion

[Dr_Professor83]

Claiming that Queen is being portrayed equally to King lacks consistent logical fundaments and constitutes more likely a delusional attempt to have him feature as good as King is.

Just my opinion.

I think they’re being portrayed as comparable. Oda has gone very far out of his way to constantly show them together. They’ve shared so many pages together that to me it seems obvious he wants us to associate them as a duo. They’re together every chance Oda gets. It would be weird if King wasn’t stronger but I think it’s meant to be close like Kaku & Jabra.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

He literally has, since they very first appearence, King doesn't even has feats agains Yonko, he just kicked a boat, Sanji and Marco can do that

It never happened unless you think bickering makes them equals. Kicking boat isn't a great feat, but doing the same when a Yonko is on board makes it one hell of a feat. And of course Marco can do it too because he is equally strong.

 

[Screws Loose242]

Calm your tits queen hasn't shown any insane durability yet all he did was tank a sneak attack from sanji

So tanking Marco attacks doent = durability hmmm

 

[Porter Peak II 👑]

Queen <= Jack :cheers:

 

[Abysmal]

He literally has, since they very first appearence, King doesn't even has feats agains Yonko, he just kicked a boat, Sanji and Marco can do that. Marco treated both equally, King was the first to engage on Marco cuz he is the second in command, King and Queen wont obey each other, they do whatever they want to, unless Kaido orders something.

Queen didn't got bothered enough to care about Marco lol

Queen was held by chopper dude, stop coping, Oda didn't reveal King's bounty and didn't treat him like trash for a reason.

 

[Peroroncino]

So tanking Marco attacks doent = durability hmmm

pay pay would have tanked them too, and considering that queen didn't hit marco once the fight would have gone the same

 

[Etemenanki]

Calm your tits queen hasn't shown any insane durability yet all he did was tank a sneak attack from sanji

He literally tanked O-Lin's, Marco's, MP Chopper's, Sanji's and even Perospero's direct hits with little to zero damage and recovered after few seconds/minutes.
That's an entire cargo of durability

 

[Julius]

It never happened unless you think bickering makes them equals. Kicking boat isn't a great feat, but doing the same when a Yonko is on board makes it one hell of a feat. And of course Marco can do it too because he is equally strong.

So Queen has even better feats, based on their portrayal they just trashtalk each other very often and they were placed side by side almost every single time they appeared in the manga.

 

[Hiragaro]

It never happened unless you think bickering makes them equals. Kicking boat isn't a great feat, but doing the same when a Yonko is on board makes it one hell of a feat. And of course Marco can do it too because he is equally strong.

Kicking a ship when it's in a vulnerable position from beneath, where BM couldn't do anything about it, puts King above Queen, the one who cracked BM's head? LOL
Yeah kicking a ship down > cracking a Yonkou's head lmao

 

[Lukegranders]

He literally has, since they very first appearence, King doesn't even has feats agains Yonko, he just kicked a boat, Sanji and Marco can do that. Marco treated both equally, King was the first to engage on Marco cuz he is the second in command, King and Queen wont obey each other, they do whatever they want to, unless Kaido orders something.

Queen didn't got bothered enough to care about Marco lol

People go unhealthy lengths to hype zoro.

the guy is not even gonna be able to tell you how king is potrayed differently then queen

 

[Peroroncino]

He literally tanked O-Lin's, Marco's, MP Chopper's, Sanji's and even Perospero's direct hits with little to zero damage and recovered after few seconds/minutes.
That's an entire cargo of durability

o-lin's not big mom's she was nerfed as hell and unable to use haki

 

[Finalbeta]

I think they’re being portrayed as comparable. Oda has gone very far out of his way to constantly show them together. They’ve shared so many pages together that to me it seems obvious he wants us to associate them as a duo. They’re together every chance Oda gets. It would be weird if King wasn’t stronger but I think it’s meant to be close like Kaku & Jabra.

At first it might happen that way, but I did personally notice several patterns which might look poorly significant but validated my stance in my opinion. For instance, how each single yonko crew seems to have a paradigm for second strongest and third crew strongest and the Beast Pirates remain the only consistently obscure factor. So odds wise, that alone can play a role. But also, the fact that it's Marco the one currently dealing with King, a man wielding definitely better portrayal than Sanji overall, not necessarily a validation since we don't know who will defeat who and how yet, still another intriguing point to look at.

 

[Etemenanki]

Claiming that Queen is being portrayed equally to King lacks consistent logical fundaments and constitutes more likely a delusional attempt to have him feature as good as King is supposed to be.

Just my opinion.

Can you post the double spread pages where the two of them were first introduced please?

 

[Lukegranders]

It never happened unless you think bickering makes them equals. Kicking boat isn't a great feat, but doing the same when a Yonko is on board makes it one hell of a feat. And of course Marco can do it too because he is equally strong.

Do you not remember brachio bomber?

actually the fact you mentioned that just proves there has never been a gap portrayed

 

[Julius]

If you want to be honest just say King>=Queen, but saying that "They were never comparable" doesn't make any sense, if Queen hadn't treated Marco's attacks like straight up irrelevant, i would potentially agree that they were never comparable, but even then King doesn't have feats against Younko 1vs1

 

[Shisui]

King > Queen, what is this debate even

 

[stairs-kun]

Broken Bones Zoro neg diffs King and Queen

 

[Dr_Professor83]

At first it might happen that way, but I did personally notice several patterns which might look poorly significant but validated my stance in my opinion. For instance, how each single yonko crew seems to have a paradigm for second strongest and third crew strongest and the Beast Pirates remain the only consistently obscure factor. So odds wise, that alone can play a role. But also, the fact that it's Marco the one currently dealing with King, a man wielding definitely better portrayal than Sanji overall, not necessarily a validation since we don't know who will defeat who and how yet, still another intriguing point to look at.

I fill safe that King > Queen. King has gotten parallels to Marco both in their fight currently and they both kicked Big Mom’s ship off the waterfall. But Oda has still treated King & Queen as a pair constantly this arc. Compare how King & Queen are portrayed and always together to Kakakuri & Smoothie. I think Queen is way closer to King than Smoothie is to Katakuri right now.

 

[stairs-kun]

@Aknolagon @Fenaker Zoro's new epithet should be "Broken Bones" Zoro. I've grown to like it.

 

[Hiragaro]

Claiming that Queen is being portrayed equally to King lacks consistent logical fundaments and constitutes more likely a delusional attempt to have him feature as good as King is supposed to be.

Just my opinion.

How about showing where King was portrait above Queen instead of telling your biased Zorosucking opinion - since we apparently "lack consistent logical fundaments and constitute delusional attemps of making them look equal"?