Current Events Is Wano One of, if Not the Worst One Piece Arc?
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At this point, it's become completely ridiculous how people hate on the pacing and everything about an arc that will take 3-4 years to end since it started.
It's just impossible to read 18 pages once a week or two and expect to be hooked on the story and remember every little detail about the characters.
It's the same people that were hating on Dressrosa while it was ongoing, then read it all together and wanked the shit out of the arc.
Of course I am not saying Oda's writing is perfect.However, the amount of characters involved in this arc just makes it impossible for everyone to be treated properly while also maintaining a good pace for the story.If he starts giving as backstories on everyone people will also whine about that.
In my opinion Wano is one of the most well-done arcs when it comes to the war/fighting aspect.As far as the overall writing goes, we will have to see it through the end.Till then, I think that it receives undeserved amounts of hate.
It's just impossible to read 18 pages once a week or two and expect to be hooked on the story and remember every little detail about the characters.
It's the same people that were hating on Dressrosa while it was ongoing, then read it all together and wanked the shit out of the arc.
Of course I am not saying Oda's writing is perfect.However, the amount of characters involved in this arc just makes it impossible for everyone to be treated properly while also maintaining a good pace for the story.If he starts giving as backstories on everyone people will also whine about that.
In my opinion Wano is one of the most well-done arcs when it comes to the war/fighting aspect.As far as the overall writing goes, we will have to see it through the end.Till then, I think that it receives undeserved amounts of hate.
LMFAO, yet the thousandth post about Wano only suffering because "it's a weekly manga". Why do you fanboys always make that dumb argument? How is rereading Yamato and Momo running around doing absolutely nothing for 10+ chapters going to make it better? How is re-reading Luffy running up the stairs to reach the roof for 5 chapters going to make it better? How is rereading characters going down, to getting back up, to going back down again, going to make it better? How is rereading the LinLin plot devices going to make it better? How is rereading Queen helping the straw hats train and then helping them gain more allies going to make it better?
LMFAO! Yep an 8 year old walking plot device changing the outcome of the "war" is definitely the most well done plot when it comes to war.
LMFAO! Yep an 8 year old walking plot device changing the outcome of the "war" is definitely the most well done plot when it comes to war.
Yep, it's too late for any redemption to Kaido. Kaido can have the greatest backstory ever and it will mean nothing since the damage has already been done.
Let me correct you, it's been 107+ chapters and three years. LMFAO and the fanboys still yelling to be patient. There is no convincing them. They are brainwashed by Oda's marketing team.
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Let me correct you, it's been 107+ chapters and three years. LMFAO and the fanboys still yelling to be patient. There is no convincing them. They are brainwashed by Oda's marketing team.
One Piece has been like this.
It is just that the new Mangas, i.e., JJK, KnY, CSM, and few others changed fan's perception. We see a lot of things happening in one chapter in other Mangas. Assume that you read JJK chapter first, and then come to read OP, a sudden change in pace. It effects our perception.
Regardless, I said OP has been like this, I meant to say: 1) Slow 2) Cartoonish 3) Relying on previously created hype.
Oda has put sooo much on his plate that he can't eat it now.
Numerous chapters into the Raid, and only good thing we have seen is roof top battle.
While, Who is Who and Jinbie, exchanging blows, like they are having pillow fight, same with Franky and Sasaki. Will it be surprising if I say the same thing is happening on Robin and Brook's end as well? No!
Chopper fights Queen, goes all out, nothing happened. Sanji kicks queen, perospero thrown out, Queen back up again like nothing happened. Marco stalling King, like Oda stalling the progression of story.
At this point, the fans are like slaves, they cannot leave, and they have to eat whatever the master throw out to them.
It is not hate. If only 1 or 2 individuals were talking about this, then we could say that they are not true fans/or they are just here to rant.
But, it is not the case. This topic is being brought up again and again by significant number of readers.
This indicates that something is wrong.
Sorry for the long post, lol.
It is just that the new Mangas, i.e., JJK, KnY, CSM, and few others changed fan's perception. We see a lot of things happening in one chapter in other Mangas. Assume that you read JJK chapter first, and then come to read OP, a sudden change in pace. It effects our perception.
Regardless, I said OP has been like this, I meant to say: 1) Slow 2) Cartoonish 3) Relying on previously created hype.
Oda has put sooo much on his plate that he can't eat it now.
Numerous chapters into the Raid, and only good thing we have seen is roof top battle.
While, Who is Who and Jinbie, exchanging blows, like they are having pillow fight, same with Franky and Sasaki. Will it be surprising if I say the same thing is happening on Robin and Brook's end as well? No!
Chopper fights Queen, goes all out, nothing happened. Sanji kicks queen, perospero thrown out, Queen back up again like nothing happened. Marco stalling King, like Oda stalling the progression of story.
At this point, the fans are like slaves, they cannot leave, and they have to eat whatever the master throw out to them.
It is not hate. If only 1 or 2 individuals were talking about this, then we could say that they are not true fans/or they are just here to rant.
But, it is not the case. This topic is being brought up again and again by significant number of readers.
This indicates that something is wrong.
Sorry for the long post, lol.
Lmfao the pacing has been so bad this arc I didn’t realize it’s already been 3 years
Separation of the crew achieved nothing.
Zoro, Ussop, Franky, should have made some progress in Wano when Luffy and others were in WCI.
So much happened in WCI, and on the other hand, other Strawhats accomplished nothing during their time in Wano. A little progress in Wano by Zoro and co would have been better in absent of Luffy. But no, they were busy in playing hide and seek.
I would not even mind a 100+ chapter arc if there was a shit load of interesting and exciting things happening.
The problem is, there isn't.
Kingdom had an unprecedented 150+ chapter in the Western Zhao Invasion Arc. I do not think Kingdom even has another 100+ chapter arc.
Like Wano, that arc was an arc that was a pivotal moment for the series. Despite the size of the arc, there were rarely any complaints amongst the Kingdom community about it's length.
Why? Simple, the pacing was good and there was loads of awesome shit happening.
Every week, there was something good happening in a chapter whether it be a major or minor character moment, a fight, a reveal, a tactic, a death, there was always something and there were no wasted chapters or characters. Every week, someone did something interesting.
Wano meanwhile? The sheer amount of wasted chapters and unnecessary/bad characters is just mind boggling.
Wano Arc had a decade of build up in advance. Shit could have started quickly.
Arrive in Wano, go to Oden castle, meet Kinemon, get sad Oden backstory, meet other Straw Hats who achieved shit off screen (Zoro rounding up Samurai anyone) and start war.
See how fucking simple that was? Lel.
Instead, Oda has an entire introduction filled with worthless characters like Kiku, Tama, Otoku, Holdem, Urashima that either add nothing or add stupid crap to the story (special mention to Tama the bipedal fodder control plot device).
Or how about we get introduced to a boatload of butt ugly designs for fodder that are completely irrelevant instead of fleshing important characters out like, I don't know, all of the Beast Pirate's most important members?
Even worse is that we have numerous extra characters that add so little but detract from others simply by existing. Like why do we need 9 Scabbards? Four could be removed comfortably and little to nothing actually changes.
One mink Duke (Neko or Inu).
One traitor character (Kanjuro or rewrite a different character).
One Scabbard left behind 20 years ago (Denjiro or Ashura).
One bodyguard sent to future with Momo (Kinemon).
Instead of 9 side characters, we now only have four.
See how simple that was? Lel.
A major rule of writing, if you find yourself actively searching for something for a character to do then that character either needs to never be introduced or needs to be written out of the story.
Also, for all the people that say "Oh but it's weekly, it should be binged read".
I) One Piece is a weekly publication. If it regularly fails to be entertaining on a weekly basis then it's not doing it's job properly.
I have read a weekly 150+ arc chapter on a weekly basis that was entertaining each week. It does not and should not need to be binge read in order to be entertaining otherwise Oda should pull a Record of Ragnarok and publish on a monthly basis if it's really that big of a damn deal.
II) Contrary to popular belief, binge reading shit does not make shit any better at anything and that includes pacing.
I binge read all of Bleach and that series still ranks at my number one spot for most horrificly paced manga that I have ever read. Binge reading did not improve the dog shit pacing.
The problem is, there isn't.
Kingdom had an unprecedented 150+ chapter in the Western Zhao Invasion Arc. I do not think Kingdom even has another 100+ chapter arc.
Like Wano, that arc was an arc that was a pivotal moment for the series. Despite the size of the arc, there were rarely any complaints amongst the Kingdom community about it's length.
Why? Simple, the pacing was good and there was loads of awesome shit happening.
Every week, there was something good happening in a chapter whether it be a major or minor character moment, a fight, a reveal, a tactic, a death, there was always something and there were no wasted chapters or characters. Every week, someone did something interesting.
Wano meanwhile? The sheer amount of wasted chapters and unnecessary/bad characters is just mind boggling.
Wano Arc had a decade of build up in advance. Shit could have started quickly.
Arrive in Wano, go to Oden castle, meet Kinemon, get sad Oden backstory, meet other Straw Hats who achieved shit off screen (Zoro rounding up Samurai anyone) and start war.
See how fucking simple that was? Lel.
Instead, Oda has an entire introduction filled with worthless characters like Kiku, Tama, Otoku, Holdem, Urashima that either add nothing or add stupid crap to the story (special mention to Tama the bipedal fodder control plot device).
Or how about we get introduced to a boatload of butt ugly designs for fodder that are completely irrelevant instead of fleshing important characters out like, I don't know, all of the Beast Pirate's most important members?
Even worse is that we have numerous extra characters that add so little but detract from others simply by existing. Like why do we need 9 Scabbards? Four could be removed comfortably and little to nothing actually changes.
One mink Duke (Neko or Inu).
One traitor character (Kanjuro or rewrite a different character).
One Scabbard left behind 20 years ago (Denjiro or Ashura).
One bodyguard sent to future with Momo (Kinemon).
Instead of 9 side characters, we now only have four.
See how simple that was? Lel.
A major rule of writing, if you find yourself actively searching for something for a character to do then that character either needs to never be introduced or needs to be written out of the story.
Also, for all the people that say "Oh but it's weekly, it should be binged read".
I) One Piece is a weekly publication. If it regularly fails to be entertaining on a weekly basis then it's not doing it's job properly.
I have read a weekly 150+ arc chapter on a weekly basis that was entertaining each week. It does not and should not need to be binge read in order to be entertaining otherwise Oda should pull a Record of Ragnarok and publish on a monthly basis if it's really that big of a damn deal.
II) Contrary to popular belief, binge reading shit does not make shit any better at anything and that includes pacing.
I binge read all of Bleach and that series still ranks at my number one spot for most horrificly paced manga that I have ever read. Binge reading did not improve the dog shit pacing.
No, that isn't how it works there buddy. The fanboy said, "be patient" which should generate a response based off stats because you can easily measure "patience". We replied back saying it's three years and 107+ chapters. That is what is called providing evidence based off a fanboy comment that has no substance. The fanboy choice to ignore the stats therefore the "brainwashed fanboy" since not even stats can convince him. And here yall are yelling "Oda apologist" because we use statistics to prove yall wrong LMFAO. Don't @ me again with such a stupid comment.