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Tbh I would be intrigued about Judges rise to king of Germa and why he gave up on humanity.

Not to redeem him as I see judge as irredeemable but I think it’d be interesting for sanji
I dont think Queen know about Judge and his dictatorship though.

The nearest thing we might got from Queen is how Vinsmoke's lineage factor existed, the raid suit,and perharps even Sora and Vegapunk which is a very important information.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
There must be a reason of why someone like Sora married and had babies with someone like Judge.

:sanjimeh: :kobeha:
The thing is:
Reiju says that, when Sora died, Judge put the blame on Sanji and mistreated him even more harshly. Kinda like how Tywin Lannister blames Tyrion for his wife's death.
Despite being the ruthless, strategical mind that we get to know in the books, Tywin was also said to be extremely devoted to his wife. I see Judge having this kind of mentality of being someone when he first married Sora, and eventually became this despicable mad scientist that wanted to "relive" some old glory days of his kingdom.
We might only have seen the part where he was already a dick, and became just worse. Who knows.:kayneshrug:
 
Since Oda basicly used the "Ctrl+C Ctrl+V" on Sanji vs Jabra in order to Sanji get his fight in Wano, will he get another "I needed a light" in this arc? But it would mean he would be completely out, and he needs to be against the main enemy somehow, just like it was against Enel in Skypiea, it would need to be against Kaido especifically.
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
Since Oda basicly used the "Ctrl+C Ctrl+V" on Sanji vs Jabra in order to Sanji get his fight in Wano, will he get another "I needed a light" in this arc? But it would mean he would be completely out, and he needs to be against the main enemy somehow, just like it was against Enel in Skypiea, it would need to be against Kaido especifically.
Ngl, I don't want another "i needed a light" moment.
I want new, unique things.
I want the character to not be used as mere hypetool and get at least some cool clutch moments even when losing.
The Doflamingo part simply didn't have it, because, in the end, Law was the one with the save. :kayneshrug:
 
The thing is:
Reiju says that, when Sora died, Judge put the blame on Sanji and mistreated him even more harshly. Kinda like how Tywin Lannister blames Tyrion for his wife's death.
Despite being the ruthless, strategical mind that we get to know in the books, Tywin was also said to be extremely devoted to his wife. I see Judge having this kind of mentality of being someone when he first married Sora, and eventually became this despicable mad scientist that wanted to "relive" some old glory days of his kingdom.
We might only have seen the part where he was already a dick, and became just worse. Who knows.:kayneshrug:
Makes sense, good reference bringing Tywin.
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Ngl, I don't want another "i needed a light" moment.
I want new, unique things.
I want the character to not be used as mere hypetool and get at least some cool clutch moments even when losing.
The Doflamingo part simply didn't have it, because, in the end, Law was the one with the save. :kayneshrug:
I exaggerated on saying the set up for Sanji vs Jabra is literally the same on Sanji vs Queen, it has some similarities but i think it is more important to the plot cuz this fight needs to be important for Sanji to get some of his endgame powerups, just like Zoro got a new Sword and CoC (who obviously will turn into Advanced CoC at some point). So could be similar to "I needed a light" kind of moment, especially cuz he was protecting Nami and Usopp against Enel
 
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Is there a post on here/you may know of that lists possible hints for Sanji having CoC. Personally I haven't seen many hints at all or at least ones that are as obvious as Zoro's CoC foreshadowing for example. Is the consensus in the Sanji FC that he will get it?

He definitely has the leadership qualities in him and having CoC would be the ultimate irony/fuck you to Germa 66 especially when you think back to Judge's sole ambition and parting words in WCI.
In terms of an actual hint of Sanji having Coc there isn't really any. Zoro had the moment scene and had parallels with Oden to hint that he had Coc
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I'll say it only here without tagging anyone because I don't want to start some conflict or whatever and get banned for it.
But whenever I see "sanji can't have CoC because WCI", my brain hurts.
Sanji's willpower portrayal reminds me a LOT of Hal Jordan. Initially doesn't believe in himself much, creates excuses all the time, fails, gets down, then gets up, bounces back to action, and shows what he's capable of.
This "bouncing back" willpower theme is something SO COMMON in fiction (Aragorn in LotR movie trilogy as well, etc), that it makes me wonder if a lot of people in this forum read/watch anything else besides generic shounens and One Piece.

If Oda makes Sanji goes this route (which seems to be the case with immediately asking for Robin's help, and telling Chopper to "not lose hope in Luffy") and gives him CoC, also working with his identity theme of accepting his Vinsmoke heritage, without stopping being his own person, it can DEFINITELY be something REALLY special and I would LOVE IT.
Not something I would bet my chips on, though.
The arguments used for why Sanji doesn't have Coc are pathetic, alot of people let their bias get in the way.
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The thing is:
Reiju says that, when Sora died, Judge put the blame on Sanji and mistreated him even more harshly. Kinda like how Tywin Lannister blames Tyrion for his wife's death.
Despite being the ruthless, strategical mind that we get to know in the books, Tywin was also said to be extremely devoted to his wife. I see Judge having this kind of mentality of being someone when he first married Sora, and eventually became this despicable mad scientist that wanted to "relive" some old glory days of his kingdom.
We might only have seen the part where he was already a dick, and became just worse. Who knows.:kayneshrug:
Oda is a big game of thrones fan I can definitely see him going this route with Judge
 
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Gyz i noticed a very intriguing thing about hell memories



well ofc.. ITS NOT A FRENCH DELICACY OR A DISH.... which i didnt give really mind to.. kinda overlooked it without realizing


and if you watch the movies.. when sanji fires up he doesn't name a French dish.. but his feelings.. Like sexy fire up then Love meteor Strike.. etc

its odd... so HM is inherently not DJ..

but it can be incorporated in HM theoretically ...

interesting stuff indeed.. but I'm also wondering if it has a Food-named move to it

but from what i get in a nutshell... HM was just a devised move in that moment .. nothing he trained for since his past fueled his anger....

this Also makes me doubt that HM is the only one named move in that state.. plus we haven't seen him super pissed at all...





time stamps for the movies: 12:25, 11:29
 
Also when someone asked Oda in an SBS why DJ doesn’t burn Sanji wasn’t his reason because Sanjis spirit burns even hotter.

I wonder if we’ll get Sanji to create a flame that burns as hot as his spirit soon.
D: Odacchi, nice to meet you!! I finally sent you a postcard. It's a serious question, so give me a real answer. That trick that Sanji used to beat Jabra!! If it was that hot to Jabra, wouldn't it burn Sanji, too?!! Wouldn't Sanji be like, "yeow"?? Tell me! P.N. Oda Gayichiro

O: What are you talking about... WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!! Are those eyes, or holes in your head?!! What were you watching in that fight?!! His LEG is hot?! No, it's not hot!! SANJI'S HEART WAS BURNING SO MUCH HOTTER!!!
 
D: Odacchi, nice to meet you!! I finally sent you a postcard. It's a serious question, so give me a real answer. That trick that Sanji used to beat Jabra!! If it was that hot to Jabra, wouldn't it burn Sanji, too?!! Wouldn't Sanji be like, "yeow"?? Tell me! P.N. Oda Gayichiro

O: What are you talking about... WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!! Are those eyes, or holes in your head?!! What were you watching in that fight?!! His LEG is hot?! No, it's not hot!! SANJI'S HEART WAS BURNING SO MUCH HOTTER!!!
So it was Haki? XDxD
 
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