Speculations Why Zoro's only opponent in this arc is Kaido and why he is in the same situation as Luffy.

[Herrera95]

Do you understand now why I keep saying it?
Queen alone has 5 attack sources. No need to factor King in at all.

Remember that Zoro already faced Fishmen with many arms... 6 and 8 attack sources.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Please read all of it (with an open mind for Sanji fans and Zoro haters) and I'm sure you'll be convinced,


As I said before in the spoiler thread, Zoro is in the same situation as Luffy, both are defeated and need a lot of time to recover. It's going to take a lot of chapters for both of them to get back on their feet.

- It takes a lot of chapters for Zoro to recover and get back on his feet again.
- It also takes a lot of chapters for Luffy to recover and reach Onigashima again.

Perfect timing for both of them to be ready against Kaido at the same time. IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE.



Queen vs Zoro debunked:

Right now Zoro can't fight or clash with anyone, Sanji is carrying him and heading to the live floor. And in chapter 1014, when found out that Chopper has less than 10 minutes left...someone has to intervene and Sanji is the best candidate for it. I don't want to talk about the heavy foreshadowing and connection between Sanji and Queen, these two are bound to fight each other.

- Sanji will give Zoro to Chopper and fight Queen.


Zoro vs King should not happen:

- King is Kaido's top commander and he's highly anticipated. It very difficult for me to think that he's going to lose to a guy who is not fighting at his full physical capacity. It's like Luffy fighting Queen or King after defeating Katakuri. If Zoro ends up fighting him then Zoro>> Luffy, which is impossible.

- Also, Marco disrespect by the OP community. Marco is WB's 1st division commander and the man who fought BB and his crew, Oda would never disrespect him like some fools here think and make him lose his first 1 vs 1 fight in the series, cmon. Marco should at least fight and defeat King.



That is to say, I think Zoro and Luffy gonna join hands and defeat Kaido, similar to Law and Kid against Big Mom.


- Law and Kid vs Big Mom:
- Law heavily damages Big Mom then falls.
- Kid tries to finish the job but Big mom's pirates arrive and escort Big Mom.

- Luffy and Zoro against Kaido:

- Zoro heavily damages Kaido.
- Kaido recognizes Zoro's strength then both fall to the ground.
- Kaido stands again and 1vs 1 Luffy.
- Luffy defeats him but doesn't kill him.
- Zoro stands again and cuts his head.

BUT BUT BUT crew dynamics. If Lanji fights 3rd strongest than Zoro must fight second because they are not far in terms of strength UGA BUGA

 

[nik87]

Remember that Zoro already faced Fishmen with many arms... 6 and 8 attack sources.

Yes, we are talking about how Luffy will handle 3 grappling hooks, a sword and laser at the same time with just one barrier.

 

[Herrera95]

Yes, we are talking about how Luffy will handle 3 grappling hooks, a sword and laser at the same time with just one barrier.

First of all Luffy doesn't even have barrier. Luffy can speedblitz them before he needs to dodge any attack.

 

[nik87]

First of all Luffy doesn't even have barrier. Luffy can speedblitz them before he needs to dodge any attack.

He does... He literally isnt touching Kaido's weapon. That's a haki barrier.
Luffy has never been speedblitzing a worthy opponent.
He tried to blitz Queen in Udon and was thrown away like a trash...

 

[matt245]

BUT BUT BUT crew dynamics. If Lanji fights 3rd strongest than Zoro must fight second because they are not far in terms of strength UGA BUGA

That shit died when we saw Zoro in the Roof Top against the main villain.

 

[Formerly Seth]

That shit died when we saw Zoro in the Roof Top against the main villain.

Exactly.

Now Sanji fans moved to "UGA BUGA Sanji kicking commanders he is close to Zoro as always".

 

[matt245]

Exactly.

Now Sanji fans moved to "UGA BUGA Sanji kicking commanders he is close to Zoro as always".

"B-but, he will mid diff Queen." Don't act like Zoro isn't capable of one shotting his ass. One nameless ranged attack alr made him shit his pants.

 

[Herrera95]

He does... He literally isnt touching Kaido's weapon. That's a haki barrier.
Luffy has never been speedblitzing a worthy opponent.
He tried to blitz Queen in Udon and was thrown away like a trash...

Not haki barrier. Adv CoC. Haki barrier is what Hyogoro, Rayleigh vs Elephant and Sentomaru are using. Luffy is using internal damage only, same thing Rayleigh did with collars.

 

[Sentry22]

Zoro disagrees with you. He said it himself that Luffy will win against Kaido. Even after Luffy got thrown into the sea both Zoro and Sanji refused to believe it was over. Then of course it was revealed Luffy wasn't done with Kaido yet. Suddenly Zoro's going to change his mind for what reason?

If it failed to happen the first time surely it will happen again right?

 

[nik87]

Not haki barrier. Adv CoC. Haki barrier is what Hyogoro, Rayleigh vs Elephant and Sentomaru are using. Luffy is using internal damage only, same thing Rayleigh did with collars.

And you are not aware that advCoC is haki thus it is a haki barrier?
Nothing internal about blocking the club by not touching...
All of it is done through haki, whether it is CoA or CoC, doesnt matter...

 

[style]

Zoro disagrees with you. He said it himself that Luffy will win against Kaido. Even after Luffy got thrown into the sea both Zoro and Sanji refused to believe it was over. Then of course it was revealed Luffy wasn't done with Kaido yet. Suddenly Zoro's going to change his mind for what reason?

If it failed to happen the first time surely it will happen again right?

Zoro also thinks that he himself is an uncool looking guy, that doesn't mean he's automatically right because he said so

 

[Finalbeta]

Zoro also thinks that he himself is an uncool looking guy, that doesn't mean he's automatically right because he said so

The Grandmaster is focused with looking badass and powerful.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Yamato top tier?

Zoro already is recovering tho
Once he gets up Kaidos ass is toast

 

[Herrera95]

And you are not aware that advCoC is haki thus it is a haki barrier?
Nothing internal about blocking the club by not touching...
All of it is done through haki, whether it is CoA or CoC, doesnt matter...

I'm not taking as barrier since barrier is suppose to be the Ryou and not Adv CoC

 

[nik87]

I'm not taking as barrier since barrier is suppose to be the Ryou and not Adv CoC

It is literally the same thing... Haki barrier whether CoA or CoC... No need to make this complicated when they arent.

 

[Herrera95]

It is literally the same thing... Haki barrier whether CoA or CoC... No need to make this complicated when they arent.

No they are not because Ryuo was said to be a barrier. Adv CoC were not.

 

[nik87]

No they are not because Ryuo was said to be a barrier. Adv CoC were not.

And I literally have shown you that it is... Oda doesnt need to spell it all out, we can conclude things on our own.

 

[Finalbeta]

No they are not because Ryuo was said to be a barrier. Adv CoC were not.

The pattern between Ad. CoA and CoC looks very similar.

The lightning sparkles don't seem to be related to CoC in that they were spot even when Kaido one shot early Wano Luffy for instance and Ad. CoC seems to be related to no-contact most likely.

Both look like featuring the same pattern, so that's more probably the case. If CoC was a simple shockwave it would be more logical to touch the enemy to generate the most Force I guess.

 

[Aknolagon]

This place will be on meltdown mode when zoro fights queen.

yes it's melting !!