News One Piece: Vivre Card (Data book)-Discussion Thread

[T.D.A]

Anyway :
Hype : Kata (undefeated Legendary pirate who never even fell on his back in a fight) > Marco (WB's "RH") > King ( one of Kaido's RHs)
Haki : Kata >> King/Marco. Both need CoC + fS/adcoc to rival him in haki section.
Portrayal: Kata > any YC who lacks CoC and FS( which only a few among inbetweeners/top tiers have).
Bounty: King (brutality + strength related ) > Marco( mainly strength related + serving MF events without being caught) >Kata (mainly strength related)

If you from the same generation, CoC and advanced haki is always the measurement of who's stronger then skills then bounty.

And Who's still doubting again that Luffy did surpass common YCs after wcI?
No YC so far having higher bounty ( brutality related or not) means that FS Luffy surpassed them all except Benn and Kata (who matched him)
Adcoc Luffy > Benn? Ryuou luffy >= Kata >= FS Luffy>YCs

Lol Katakuri isn't legendary and he's spent most of his life sitting in WCI and eating donuts so his 'undefeated' feat is superficious.

 

[sanjikun]

Lol Katakuri isn't legendary and he's spent most of his life sitting in WCI and eating donuts so his 'undefeated' feat is superficious.

How did he develop Future Sight? Sitting around eating donuts? You haters are fucking hilarious.

 

[T.D.A]

How did he develop Future Sight? Sitting around eating donuts? You haters are fucking hilarious.

Apparently you can't tell the difference between being legendary and being among the strongest in the world.

 

[Olimaat]

Aye what's the new info ?

 

[Finalbeta]

So what are the official bounties? Nothing new about Marco at least?

 

[HA001]

Aye what's the new info ?

Marco isn't under a billion
Izo is 500 plus

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

luffy was amongst the "strongest /mightiest"in the world
pre udon when he had the ability to see the future
didnt look any bit close to kaido .
depends on how far you want to stretch the " strongest "
strongest 5 people?
or more like top 20.....

 

[Finalbeta]

Marco under a billion would have constituted Oda's biggest blunder in ages. Danger ran out luckly.

 

[Adam]

Like I said, under 1B is illogic to Marco's bounty, is between 1B and 2B like this little oficial preview reveal. \/

http://imgur.com/a/4TbbTO9

This picture is oficial and you can find in the vivre card's oficial site.

 

[Olimaat]

Izo is 500 plus

???? Seriously ???

 

[Monster Luffy]

Izo bounty is seriously unexpected. Ace hype is going down.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Izo bounty is seriously unexpected. Ace hype is going down.

I think ace's hype was more about his potential
rather than his strength at the time.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

???? Seriously ???

The only explanation is Oda wants to hype Izo as one of WBs most prominent, they’ve been with WB for 20 years after all but still.

 

[Monster Luffy]

I think ace's hype was more about his potential
rather than his strength at the time.

Ace is over reliant on his DF and his haki is mediocre. He got good physical stats. He definitely had potential before joining WBP. He lost identity since joining WBP.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Ace is over reliant on his DF and his haki is mediocre. He got good physical stats. He definitely had potential before joining WBP. He lost identity since joining WBP.

still seemed like his same ambitious self when he charged into wano to take kaido's head
a bit like luffy .
also had conqueror's haki --- high potential
everyone looked over reliant on their df prets being honest
he had potential still being in wb pirates, he just didnt know wb wanted him to take his place someday. ace just assumed wb wanted to be the pk.

in any-case a 21 yr old at 550 mil
is no small feat. thats still greater than what even kidd and law have rn and they are older and have spent roughly the same amount of time at sea now as ace did when he passed.

 

[Seth]

???? Seriously ???

Izo bounty is seriously unexpected. Ace hype is going down.

Izo's bounty is purely off someone else's hype.

WB's underling hype + Wano land shit.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Katakuri is a fraud. The first mf he had a real fight beat his ass.

 

[Hades]

Katakuri is a fraud. The first mf he had a real fight beat his ass.

this is same for almost every villain in one piece.....

 

[Ballel]

Katakuri is a fraud. The first mf he had a real fight beat his ass.

Katakuri is a hypocrite

 

[Adam]

I can't understand the Kingtards, this pathetic character is a big useless, the hype he took of fandom is 100% based on his cool design, he did nothing in this war, more useless than Jack and Queen, and despite this them love despise Marco just because them created a imaginary rivalry with Marco, the reality is, King is not opponent to Marco, Marco are 2/3/4 steps above King.