One Piece Chapter 965 Spoilers Discussion
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You overlooked the reason why I posted this.
It's the fact that the second division spot was vacant. If BB refused, it should've gone to someone else that was strongest after Teach ASSUMING it's all based on strength. Even before Ace joined.
The 2nd division spot was vacant. Someone other than Teach could have easily filled that void assuming it was strength related like the other user was arguing.
It's the fact that the second division spot was vacant. If BB refused, it should've gone to someone else that was strongest after Teach ASSUMING it's all based on strength. Even before Ace joined.
The 2nd division spot was vacant. Someone other than Teach could have easily filled that void assuming it was strength related like the other user was arguing.
I was enlightened today that teenage marck> oden
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I don't need to explain a thing
Oden CoC, hyped wb himself... led 2nd ship
Ace CoC; WB named him as successor, Ace was gonna be PK.
That's why it was left open for years
WB never saw anyone with potential higher than Oden until he met Ace.
And he saw that Ace will surpass even Oden in strength and even Roger!
Sorry
Marck > Oden lol in dreams
Oden CoC, hyped wb himself... led 2nd ship
Ace CoC; WB named him as successor, Ace was gonna be PK.
That's why it was left open for years
WB never saw anyone with potential higher than Oden until he met Ace.
And he saw that Ace will surpass even Oden in strength and even Roger!
Sorry
Marck > Oden lol in dreams
Lol so you make a dumbass assertion based on literally 0 evidence and then you call people salty for addressing how stupid your take is? I'm done 😭
You haven't addressed my points AT ALL. You're ignoring it since you know It'll show you the flaws in your argument.
I swear you Marco fanboys need to get your head out of your asses and see the facts. salty asf.
Lol so you make a dumbass assertion based on literally 0 evidence and then you call people salty for addressing how stupid your take is? I'm done 😭
You haven't addressed my points AT ALL. You're ignoring it since you know It'll show you the flaws in your argument.
I swear you Marco fanboys need to get your head out of your asses and see the facts. salty asf.
You haven't addressed my points AT ALL. You're ignoring it since you know It'll show you the flaws in your argument.
I swear you Marco fanboys need to get your head out of your asses and see the facts. salty asf.
The only possible explanation for Whitebeard giving Marco the First Division Spot > Oden is if Marco were stronger than Oden. Every other reason is logically void. Let’s go over them:
Experience? Nah, Marco was just a rookie. If experience were relevant, people who’d been in the crew longer like Whitey Bay would’ve gotten the First Division slot. So no,
Loyalty? Maybe, but along with experience, there are others who had been there for longer and qualify more. So again no.
Seniority? Nope, again Marco was a relative noobie.
Leadership ability? Maybe but again unlikely for a rookie. He was just being bossed around by whitey bay last chapter after all. So maybe, but likely not.
Strength? That’s highly plausible, Marco did in fact have his mythical Zoan fruit for at least 2 years now.
Now this is important so read slowly: All of the reasons that might theoretically qualify Marco for YC1 aside from strength, directly disqualify Oden to hold any YC rank at all as their is a negative correlation between what qualifies Oden and what qualifies marco.
If Division Commander slots are granted based on loyalty, seniority, experience, time spent in the crew, etc. then oden wouldn’t have been granted any division commander spot at all because he is literally the least qualified member of the crew in each of these regards.
Leadership would be the only plausible thing warranting Oden at YC2, but even this is unlikely as again, there are other, far more experienced members in the crew than both oden and Marco.
The only plausible explanation for Marco getting a higher division rank than Oden as of now, the only one, is that Marco is stronger than Oden. Just like the only possible explanation for Oden getting the YC2 rank is his strength as literally nothing else qualifies him for this position.
That clear enough for you boo boo?
Well, to be fair Shanks was established as a respectable character at Romance Dawn while we just got an quick footnote about Roger for world building purposes. We really didn't know more about him until Luffy met Rayleigh and even then it wasn't the full story on this guy. Now we actually get to see how Oda presents Roger himself and his crew in this flashback. Although I don't expect it to be a complete flashback for Roger (I think Oda might be saving it for the end), but we'll see.
So the Roger pirates already fought the Whitebeard pirates once off-panel? 
I Hope this time it doesn't get off-panel
I also wonder what Oden's bounty is. Didn't expected them to come back to Wano so soon
It also seems like Shanks' was Roger's favorite boy, with him always wearing his hats lol. I also want to know who were the original 5division commanders because i think at the time they were cleverly chosen
And I knew Oda would create a parallel between Oden and Ace.
Oden was the original 2nd division commander Ace ended up inheriting the division from.
That also means more Ace hype
I Hope this time it doesn't get off-panelI also wonder what Oden's bounty is. Didn't expected them to come back to Wano so soon
It also seems like Shanks' was Roger's favorite boy, with him always wearing his hats lol. I also want to know who were the original 5division commanders because i think at the time they were cleverly chosen
And I knew Oda would create a parallel between Oden and Ace.
Oden was the original 2nd division commander Ace ended up inheriting the division from.
That also means more Ace hype
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People dont even know when did Jozu Vista Marco become commanders of divisionsRight now Oden was leading 2nf ship
+ maybe Rakuyo whitebay are leading 2 other divisions
And that leaves 2 ships
Maybe WB himself led 1st or some other old strong member crewmate
Also Whitebay left WB.
WB had 5 divisions back then and matched Roger in a battle.
Then after Roger death... and some time later; it became 16.
What if he was upgrading based on new and loyal sons he deemed worthy.
5 ships : 28- 24 years ago
6-10 ships : 23-18 years ago
10-16 ships : 17 years ago till a year ago.
Thus tells me Scopper was way weaker than Rayleigh
Coz
Rayleigh will fight Oden : swordmen and conquerors underling
Scopper vs Vista (21 y.o)
Crocus vs Rakuyo? Whitebay?
Shanks and buggy vs Marco and Jozu?
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So the Roger pirates already fought the Whitebeard pirates once off-panel? I Hope this time it doesn't get off-panel
I also wonder what Oden's bounty is. Didn't expected them to come back to Wano so soon
It also seems like Shanks' was Roger's favorite boy, with him always wearing his hats lol. I also want to know who were the original 5division commanders because i think at the time they were cleverly chosen
And I knew Oda would create a parallel between Oden and Ace.
Oden was the original 2nd division commander Ace ended up inheriting the division from.
That also means more Ace hype
I Hope this time it doesn't get off-panelI also wonder what Oden's bounty is. Didn't expected them to come back to Wano so soon
It also seems like Shanks' was Roger's favorite boy, with him always wearing his hats lol. I also want to know who were the original 5division commanders because i think at the time they were cleverly chosen
And I knew Oda would create a parallel between Oden and Ace.
Oden was the original 2nd division commander Ace ended up inheriting the division from.
That also means more Ace hype
Teach was offered a position for it too? Teach was originally under Oden
The people that led or were given proposal, were monsters
One was admiral level, other was gonna be PK, one is emperor level now
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Teach respected Oden ao much that he didnt wanna take up the Role of and ship captaincyOden taught Teach how to fight
Before teaching ShanksNo wonder why Shanks got scarred by Teach
Teach was jealous that Shanks stole his captain away
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