One Piece Chapter 965 Spoilers Discussion

[ImmaIvanoM]

I mean, who knows what the plans are for him. He might have been in the shadow all these years without Kaido even realizing he exists or that he's behind Orochi's schemes haha. Afterall, planning things from behind the scenes was his thing

That means he isn't actually one of the big names of the generation since he was in the shadows... Which is also somewhat contradictory since the narrator says he was a big name if the generation

 

[Monet]

Now i understand why roger didn't clashed with big mom When he went to tottoland. Roger was sick & he knew if he picks a fights bigmom then he would lose so much. He was saving his energy for raftel.

Saving his energy for LT lol
Is LT Woman

 

[Guan Yu]

Even if you discount Ushimaru’s silhouette, any time the Shimotsuki name has been mentioned, Zoro is usually involved.

But funnily enough, Zoro is never around to hear it.

 

[Jrus]

Wtf, did that mane mane woman turn into Shiki?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Even if you discount Ushimaru’s silhouette, any time the Shimotsuki name has been mentioned, Zoro is usually involved.

But we know how and why already right?

Shimotsuki Kouzaburou - Koushiro - Kuina - Wado Ichimonji - Enma

Shimotsuki Yasuie - Toko - Hiyori - Enma

Shimotsuki Ushimaru - Onimaru - Gyukimaru- Shusui - Ryuma

Done.

That's a closed loop for all Shimotsuki clan members and they all involve Zoro and that's fine but thats all there is to it.

These are closed stories which do not require Zoro to be related to anyone to remain closed stories

The open plot point in any of these is the black blade stuff and again that has nothing to do with Zoro being related to anyone

 

[Dark Hound]

@Bogard why delete bro i worked for that

Bruh your avy fire

Vald Tepes was a beast

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

But funnily enough, Zoro is never around to hear it.

He heard it when Shimotsuki Kouzaborou was mentioned

 

[Jrus]

That's young Shiki, look at the eyebrows

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

That's young Shiki, look at the eyebrows

This is three years before he fought Roger though... How did he age so badly in just three years?

And why is he kneeling down to Orochi 14 years after god valley yet the narrator said he was supposed to be along side Big mom and Whitebeard gaining power to become a big name

 

[Dark Hound]

And so, the biggest genetic failure in history is born​

Hey no BM son or daughter had her insane premature strength !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jrus]

This is three years before he fought Roger though... How did he age so badly in just three years?

And why is he kneeling down to Orochi 14 years after god valley yet the narrator said he was supposed to be along side Big mom and Whitebeard gaining power to become a big name

I meant it's his face, my bad. That old woman might have touched him before

 

[stealthblack]

how would that old hag from wano even know shiki

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

how would that old hag from wano even know shiki

That's the question though... Is she from Wano? Or at the very least, has she never left Wano?

For one, she is giving Orochi a very rare devil fruit

Secondly her fruit ended up with Mr 2 so she probably died outside of Wano for it to have ended up in paradise

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Fraud Kaido couldn't beat her. It's most likely that Oden used the moves on her while they stole the poneglyph

:smithnie:

 

[Pantheos]

That's the question though... Is she from Wano? Or at the very least, has she never left Wano?

For one, she is giving Orochi a very rare devil fruit

Secondly her fruit ended up with Mr 2 so she probably died outside of Wano for it to have ended up in paradise

Always the question... what does "very rare" in case of devil fruits anyway mean? All fruits only exist once, so why is one fruit "more rare" than another?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Always the question... what does "very rare" in case of devil fruits anyway mean? All fruits only exist once, so why is one fruit "more rare" than another?

I mean Orochi's fruit is mythical Zoan which is the rarest sub category of fruits

 

[Kejon]

Always the question... what does "very rare" in case of devil fruits anyway mean? All fruits only exist once, so why is one fruit "more rare" than another?

There are more paramecia DF's than there are Logia and mythcial zoan's.

 

[Worst]

Btw that old hag with the Mane Mane have the same things on the head like this guy that kinda look like holdem or at least seem to be similar....maybe they are from some unknown faction...

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

This is getting interesting because Orochi is no longer alone in this fall of Oden plot... The man had his entire clan backing him...

I was wondering how he is all about Wano must have closed borders and yet he somehow got in touch with Kaido... This explains it... He's never actually left Wano... His clan members are the one who have been working behind the scenes

This opens up the board for Orochi to have even more relatives who are vastly more competent in the background somewhere... they may even be strong

 

[Red Admiral]

This is three years before he fought Roger though... How did he age so badly in just three years?

no ... this IS the year he fought Roger