Powers & Abilities So Zoro and Roger can send air bar out

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

• Hi guys ;

Today we will talk abou Roger and his attack Kumurasaki .

• As one friend of us here said @Chaves Roger didn't use a slash nothing about swordman ship he just sent an air bar or like what the VC described ( canon material ) a shockwave .

<< A single swing of Roger's sword, Ace(Supreme Grade), can cause huge
shock wave!!" >>

As you noticed that VC described that with a shockwave , Hmmm interesting now let's check Zoro sending shockwaves around :

Nitoryu style :
Hawk wave

Manga panel :

So as mr @Chaves claimed by saying Roger isn't a swordman because he sent an air bar which called a wave by VC which according to him a swordman wouldn't do it but Alas we have Zoro sending shock waves around with a named attack not cutting ppl by it

So Zoro isn't a swordman is confirmed

@ShishioIsBack @Aknolagon @Geo @stairs-kun @style @nik87 @Monet @Sword God Ryuma @MarimoHeado @Marimo_420 etc etc

 

[Aknolagon]

• Hi guys ;

Today we will talk abou Roger and his attack Kumurasaki .

• As one friend of us here said @Chaves Roger didn't use a slash nothing about swordman ship he just sent an air bar or like what the VC described ( canon material ) a shockwave .

As you noticed that VC described that with a shockwave , Hmmm interesting now let's check Zoro sending shockwaves around :

Nitoryu style :
Hawk wave

Manga panel :

So as mr @Chaves claimed by saying Roger isn't a swordman because he sent an air bar which called a wave by VC which according him No swordman wouldn't do it but Alas we have Zoro sending shock waves around with a named attack not cutting ppl

So Zoro isn't a swordman is confirmed

@ShishioIsBack @Aknolagon @Geo @stairs-kun @style @nik87 @Monet @Sword God Ryuma @MarimoHeado @Marimo_420 etc etc

Don't listen to Mr.Lucifer Sanji

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Roger isn't a swordsman. He's a guy that send air bar using a sword.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Don't listen to Mr.Lucifer Sanji

Roger isn't a swordsman. He's a guy that send air bar using a sword.

You mean shock waves as what VC said

And Like how Zoro sent shock waves :queenhear:

Both aren't swordmen

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

The reasoning itself here is irrelevant and missing the point whether the premise is or not true because the point isn't whether Zoro can or not send shockwaves but whether Roger mainly used his sword as a catalyst instead of a cutter or not.

 

[notAfanboy]

Who cares about what a fan says, when Oda himself gives enough inconsistencies to rant about.
Worstgen is more like Trollgen, users will say anything to prove themselves right.

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

The reasoning itself here is irrelevant and missing the point whether the premise is or not true because the point isn't whether Zoro can or not send shockwaves but whether Roger mainly used his sword as a catalyst instead of a cutter or not.

True Like how Zoro used his sword as a catalyst instead of a cutter by sending shock waves around :queenhear:

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

You mean shock waves as what VC said

And Like how Zoro sent shock waves :queenhear:

Both aren't swordmen

"Zoro, Shanks, Roger, Oden has CoC. They are not pure swordsmen."

 

[Geo]

Zoro has other fighting styles similar to Roger and Shanks. He isn't just a swordsman

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

"Zoro, Shanks, Roger, Oden has CoC. They are not pure swordsmen."

Sanji with RS isn't a pure fighter :queenhear:

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Sanji with RS isn't a pure fighter :queenhear:

And that's why pure swordsmen debate are bullshit.

 

[notAfanboy]

If a goalkeeper kicks the football on field, he is not a goalkeeper anymore?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

If a goalkeeper kicks the football on field, he is not a goalkeeper anymore?

The goalkeeper become a kicker.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

True Like how Zoro used his sword as a catalyst instead of a cutter by sending shock waves around :queenhear:

That's not how logic works, hence my post; the reasoning is failed because a swordsman being able to send shockwaves with a sword doesn't mean every person sending shockwaves with a sword is a swordsman. Zoro using the sword as a catalyst isn't proof that Roger is a swordsman in the terms the OP is referring; evidence would be Roger actually using his sword to cut as a main source of power in the way Zoro does.

This argument is clearly empty and the thread useless. It isn't addressing the main point of debate but starting by the position one of the parts assume as correct, which is a petitio principii.

 

[Peroroncino]

And that's why pure swordsmen debate are bullshit.

I agree with this, the ''pure swordsman'' term is made up by fans and has no importance in the story whatsoever

 

[[No Name]]

The reasoning itself here is irrelevant and missing the point whether the premise is or not true because the point isn't whether Zoro can or not send shockwaves but whether Roger mainly used his sword as a catalyst instead of a cutter or not.

EXACTLY.
You found the perfect word, Roger uses his sword as an haki catalyst.

 

[Romsteack]

I mean obviously Zoro isn't a swordsman... I saw him using his Haki during a fight the other day ! He tried to hid it but you can't run out of my eyes !!

 

[Salah WG]

Zoro uses Kicks, Punches, Shockwaves, Back of his Swords, Swordsless Style, Knife & Haoshoku Haki
He is definitely not a Swordsman

Mihawk is Greatest Swordsman because he is Only Swordsman in One Piece World
Isn't it that obvious?

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

And that's why pure swordsmen debate are bullshit.

But sanji is an impure Fighter with RS

That's not how logic works, hence my post; the reasoning is failed because a swordsman being able to send shockwaves with a sword doesn't mean every person sending shockwaves with a sword is a swordsman.

True like How Roger and Zoro sent shock waves around so they aren't swordmen at all because a swordman only knows how to cut

Zoro using the sword as a catalyst isn't proof that Roger is a swordsman in the terms the OP is referring; evidence would be Roger actually using his sword to cut as a main source of power in the way Zoro does.

So you based ur shits on headcanons lmao show me where they said that Roger uses his sword as a catalyst or you are talking out of ur ass again

• Roger used his sword to send shock waves which only A No swordmen would do as mr @Chaves said so Zoro isn't a swordman

This argument is clearly empty and the thread useless. It isn't addressing the main point of debate but starting by the position one of the parts assume as correct, which is a petitio principii.

True based on ur headcanons this thread already gave its objective especially when a sword maniac like Roger who likes his sword to death and named his son with its name whilst Zoro didn't give a fuck about shusui and changed it

Well both are no swordmen but if we check who is having a great obsession over his sword is Roger than Zoro

EXACTLY.
You found the perfect word, Roger uses his sword as an haki catalyst.

Yeah like Zori used it as a catalyst to send shock waves

But don't worry Zoro isn't a sword maniac like roger who loved it to death and named his son with its name

 

[Zowo]

and as u can see zoro s hawk wave didn t cut them like roger didn t cut oden

so yeah roger and zoro are similar