Your most controversial opnions which majority dont support /belive/justify

[Gol D. Roger]

Not really, I put irreligious and not-really-religious people in the same basket
I don't consider most Christians in the West to be very religious
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_irreligion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importance_of_religion_by_country
We can see that Nordic countries, Europe's big 4, Canada, China, Australia, Switz, South Korea and some others developed countries are either irreligious or much less religious than third world countries (usually the poorest and least educated countries)

And without any surprise most of these countries are among the safest, most tolerant (not China though

), most developed, advanced countries in the world

Based on your data, only China and a couple of other countries have 50% or more of their population as irreligious/non-religious while >/= 60% of people in the rest of the countries are religious. Scandinavian Countries, as far as I know, are some of the most developed countries in the world and the majority of their people are religious. Wiki suggests that even in Canada and Switz, non-religious people are below 30%. Japan is a highly developed nation too, and around 90% of their population is religious. I can tell without even looking at the statistics that there are more religious people in the US and UK than the other way around.

I must say I kinda see where you're getting at but I think the problem here isn't the concept of religion itself but the people who use it negatively.

Arent there communists who fight goverment into some kind of conflict?

There are, but they're almost non-existing. I honestly have no idea what communists even do in India.

 

[ConquistadoR]

There are, but they're almost non-existing. I honestly have no idea what communists even do in India.

there is a party but that's just limited to two states. i think he was talking about the naxalites lol

 

[Gol D. Roger]

naxalites

I don't think non-Indias are even familiar with that word unless they're deeply involved with India or actually researched it.

 

[ConquistadoR]

I don't think non-India's are even familiar with that word unless they're deeply involved with India or actually researched it.

yeah im actually surprised. there's a chance that some indians who are living in india have no idea about it lol

 

[Veljko]

there is a party but that's just limited to two states. i think he was talking about the naxalites lol

Yes they from around 1965 to now they wage war against india goverment

 

[Sakazuki-Singh]

Scandinavian Countries, as far as I know, are some of the most developed countries in the world and the majority of their people are religious. Wiki suggests that even in Canada and Switz, non-religious people are below 30%. Japan is a highly developed nation too, and around 90% of their population is religious. I can tell without even looking at the statistics that there are more religious people in the US and UK than the other way around.

Did you read that link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importance_of_religion_by_country ?

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Here's another link from another study :

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[ConquistadoR]

believing in god is something i can understand and agree with.

what i cannot understand is following and enforcing rules on society through religion. especially the rules that were made keeping in mind the society, centuries or sometimes even 1000 s of years ago, in this modern era and forcing people to live by it.

 

[BleakAsh]

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believing in god is something i can understand and agree with.

what i cannot understand is following and enforcing rules on society through religion. especially the rules that were made keeping in mind the society, centuries or sometimes even 1000 s of years ago, in this modern era and forcing people to live by it.

so you're saying you can believe in god but don't consider what he decrees through his messengers as ideal principle.. isn't that contradictory..?

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Did you read that link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Importance_of_religion_by_country ?

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Here's another link from another study :

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Do you suggest Russia and China are safer and more civilized than the UK and the US because they have less regard for religion? Also, there is a difference b/w not thinking religion is important and not being religious altogether.

 

[ConquistadoR]

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not that exactly but yeah i prefer using a handheld health faucet.

water >>>> toilet paper tho undebatable.

 

[BleakAsh]

Do you suggest Russia and China are safer and more civilized than the UK and the US because they have less regard for religion? Also, there is a difference b/w not thinking religion is important and not being religious altogether.

China isn't religion friendly... if you aren't informed up to date with whats happening there

 

[Gol D. Roger]

China isn't religion friendly... if you aren't informed up to date with whats happening there

I did not say China is religious friendly though? I said the opposite if anything.

 

[BleakAsh]

I did not say China is religious friendly though? I said the opposite if anything.

oh! yea i notice... my bad..

 

[Veljko]

Im religious and go to church(im eastern orthodox) with wife and are going with kids there, but im seeing how many my companions are going off edge (beliving into some conspiracy theories,getting more nationalistic,they are always right never wrong(you cant argue with them about religion and they belive you are stubborn)are sensitive about religion thing (be careful),always know story which they hear from third guy who got story from fourth guy ,beliving other religions are wrong(islam to be some kind of boogeyman) rest of christianity(catholics/protestants..) not worthy of jesus christ and they misunderstand whole christianity but arent agressive and could talk about other things with diffrent ethnic and religious groups if religion isnt theme..
,but i would guess its small but loud minority ,same for other religious groups(who are even threating/dangerous like in Islam(ISIS,muhadeen,terrorists,fanatics)who are minority but very loud and dangerous

I go to church when is christmas,easter,our traditional holiday(every serb have ritual glorification of one's family's patron saint. Called slava)and sometimes at end of week ,if i have time why shouldnt go,and i belive in god

 

[ConquistadoR]

so you're saying you can believe in god but don't consider what he decrees through his messengers as ideal principle.. isn't that contradictory..?

no. i personally dont believe in any god but if someone believes in a god of their choice, im perfectly ok with it. i think that believing, worshipping and praying to a god is something very personal between a person and their god.

what i have a problem with is when people try to make and mandate rules on others which leads to fucked up systems like the caste system (which was apparently decree'd by the hindu holy scriptures), homophobia, sexists views as well. people who hold power in religious matters tend to use these rules to exploit people. that is where i have an issue with it. some of those rules were made considering the society that existed 1000s of years or centuries ago.

people following it in this era is something i cant comprehend.

 

[BleakAsh]

Im religious and go to church(im eastern orthodox) with wife and are going with kids there, but im seeing how many my companions are going off edge (beliving into some conspiracy theories,getting more nationalistic,they are always right never wrong(you cant argue with them about religion and they belive you are stubborn)are sensitive about religion thing (be careful),always know story which they hear from third guy who got story from fourth guy ,beliving other religions are wrong(islam to be some kind of boogeyman) rest of christianity(catholics/protestants..) not worthy of jesus christ and they misunderstand whole christianity but arent agressive and could talk about other things with diffrent ethnic and religious groups if religion isnt theme..
,but i would guess its small but loud minority ,same for other religious groups(who are even threating/dangerous like in Islam(ISIS,muhadeen,terrorists,fanatics)who are minority but very loud and dangerous

I go to church when is christmas,easter,our traditional holiday(every serb have ritual glorification of one's family's patron saint. Called slava)and sometimes at end of week ,if i have time why shouldnt go,and i belive in god

Now a days you honestly can't differ between a believer and an atheist.. coz both should stunning ignorance and insecurities the only one difference is one claims to believe in god.. and other doesnt ..

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no. i personally dont believe in any god but if someone believes in a god of their choice, im perfectly ok with it. i think that believing, worshipping and praying to a god is something very personal between a person and their god.

what i have a problem with is when people try to make and mandate rules on others which leads to fucked up systems like the caste system (which was apparently decree'd by the hindu holy scriptures), homophobia, sexists views as well. people who hold power in religious matters tend to use these rules to exploit people. that is where i have an issue with it. some of those rules were made considering the society that existed 1000s of years or centuries ago.

people following it in this era is something i cant comprehend.

well yea i agree with that but its not alway the case.. and the age or its longevity doesn't have to do with it being obsolete..
Democracy as a term form in 500BC or so..


the problem is any rules are right if they are logically justified.. if you don't justify something you'd sound like a tyrant treating his folks as sheep.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Democracy as a term form in 500BC or so..

yeah but it went through many iterations and the rules were changed a lot right? the democracy that is in play right now isnt the same as the one that existed back then and so is the society. that was my point. i agree with the rest though.

 

[BleakAsh]

yeah but it went through many iterations and the rules were changed a lot right? the democracy that is in play right now isnt the same as the one that existed back then and so is the society. that was my point. i agree with the rest though.

Not all democracies are same lmao that is true.. unless or until the essences of it had been changed to for, by, of the people..


i have great video for ya

http://imgur.com/a/mPwiZCj

 

[ConquistadoR]

Not all democracies are same lmao that is true.. unless or until the essences of it had been changed to for, by, of the people..


i have great video for ya

http://imgur.com/a/mPwiZCj

 

[Veljko]

the problem is any rules are right if they are logically justified.. if you don't justify something you'd sound like a tyrant treating his folks as sheep.

In western contries/world lobying is legal and justified while they consider lobying in east as corrupution ane illegal thing to do (while to be noted i belive both are consider corruption),but it was/is/will be part of system in human goverment, but it need be controled and fight heavily to minimalize corruption