Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1021 Spoilers Discussion

[Weeman]

Maria not having haki is one big assumption

Same could be said about Sasaki not having haki.
My point is, Maria hasn't shown amazing offensive potential and seems to be more of a tricky/gimmick based fighter with her illusions, poison and such.

 

[humanbeing]

I hope Robin used armament haki it is not necessary that but who knows.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Who's who is by far and away the strongest Tobi Roppo. There is a reason he was always front and center. The guy could legit be commander level. Hardening + custom Rokushiki and being compared to Rob Lucci.

I'd say the Dinos (P1, Ulti, X-Drake) can TANK more than WW, but in terms of overall combat, he's clearly stronger. He wouldn't be dicked around for hours like P1, Ulti were by Usopp and Nami.

whos who got two shotted by jinbe once he got serious. ulti tanked lasers from big mom and still kept going.

if anything x drake is probably the strongest of them all ~ sasaki and who's who were very relieved that he wasnt participating for a calamity position. if who's who is that strong why did he have to take x drake to queen instead of confronting him alone?

 

[The White Crane]

Moe getting hated and schooled by everyone else in every thread he has ever been in be like:

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Why does he need to explain when for past chapters he talks about Enma when he try to use sword on him. It's obvious Enma is the reason as it was even highlighted into Asura attack only, not his other swords.

I am explaining, but your idiot who don't go on canon, but headcannon, bruh. Why was Enma highlighted in Asura attack then if his other swords did something? Again don't denied that.

Bullshit.

Kaido a man that fears and respected Oden. Who got a permanent scar for the first time from Oden would cbose not mention enma or odens sword again when receiving another permanent scar? Bullshit. The only reason why kaido did not mention it was because he was legitimately in aww of zoros strength deducting that this man had coc.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Nope they aren't, I could explain why BMP>Beasts Pirates but I would end up writing a huge full summary lol.

please do and tag me when you do so :). i think otherwise and ill lay down my arguments at that time.

 

[IIskandar1997]

disagree massively with your F6 list. you missed really badly with that one.

Kaido
Yamato
King
Queen
Jack

x drake, hawkins, apoo

ulti (i think she is the second strongest of the tobi roppo outside of x drake)
whos who (i think whos who and sasaki are interchange able though)
sasaki
black maria
page one

Ulti being the second strongest makes even less sense lol. Sure she has some good endurance but she failed at defeating fucking Nami , Meanwhile WsW was able to actually injure someone that imo is fourth commander level, not to mention how he is a martial arts master. Sasaki isnt far behind with how he was able to destroy the Shogun, and Maria is maybe the most versatile of the bunch. Ulti MIGHT be over Maria in raw power and haki but thats it

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

We troll back. You troll first

Never did. I only troll when you guys think I was with other side due to not agreeing with you .

 

[IIskandar1997]

Same could be said about Sasaki not having haki.
My point is, Maria hasn't shown amazing offensive potential and seems to be more of a tricky/gimmick based fighter with her illusions, poison and such.

I would say that poison and the Wanyudo are pretty decent when it comes to offensive cpaabili

 

[humanbeing]

next chapter there will be an announcement that all of the Topirobbo have been defeated and the beast pirates will shrink more. we will see King, Queen , Jack and the CP0 reactions to that.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Ulti being the second strongest makes even less sense lol. Sure she has some good endurance but she failed at defeating fucking Nami , Meanwhile WsW was able to actually injure someone that imo is fourth commander level, not to mention how he is a martial arts master. Sasaki isnt far behind with how he was able to destroy the Shogun, and Maria is maybe the most versatile of the bunch. Ulti MIGHT be over Maria in raw power and haki but thats it

ulti didnt lose to nami wtf ~ she lost to big mom interfering. you're crazy if you think big mom didnt do the heavy lifting against ulti.

who's who did pretty much nothing to jinbe while jinbe wrapped him up with just a random shoulder throw and onigawara seiken. if who's who stands up ill change my stance but he has done absolutely nothing to suggest he's better than ulti.

 

[Shiroyru]

How are you putting Black Maria over WsW?
She's literally using brass knuckles because she doesn't have haki.
Ulti too honestly, it took literally Big Mom stepping in and she receiving multiple finishers to bring her down.

Black Maria received superior portrayal in the cover page and was the last to go down. She knows Haki, but Oda just doesn’t like drawing it on some characters. Kaido himself has never used Hardening either. Same goes for King, Queen, and Jack

 

[Pan D. A. Man]

Bullshit.

Kaido a man that fears and respected Oden. Who got a permanent scar for the first time from Oden would cbose not mention enma or odens sword again when receiving another permanent scar? Bullshit. The only reason why kaido did not mention it was because he was legitimately in aww of zoros strength deducting that this man had coc.

Nah, canon. Your on the BS, bruh.

Yeah and he talked about Zoro the most about Enma, the sword of that guy and even go to talking on 'Oden's Spirit' on the sword. Not on Zoro. Oden is in Luffy after he talk about top tier Pirates, but sword is the one he talks about his 'spirit'.

Yeah due to Enma getting cut in, not by his own abilities. Again your not proving my point that other swords didn't do anything. We agreeing on matter, but you forcing swords did something, but I am talking about Enma only is the one.

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

whos who got two shotted by jinbe once he got serious. ulti tanked lasers from big mom and still kept going.

if anything x drake is probably the strongest of them all ~ sasaki and who's who were very relieved that he wasnt participating for a calamity position. if who's who is that strong why did he have to take x drake to queen instead of confronting him alone?

Bruh ussop and nami were tanking ultis headbutt. She has great defense but shitty offenses

 

[Weeman]

I would say that poison and the Wanyudo are pretty decent when it comes to offensive cpaabili

Compared to what all the other F6 (except maybe P1) have shown, not really.

 

[sanjikun]

whos who got two shotted by jinbe once he got serious. ulti tanked lasers from big mom and still kept going.

if anything x drake is probably the strongest of them all ~ sasaki and who's who were very relieved that he wasnt participating for a calamity position. if who's who is that strong why did he have to take x drake to queen instead of confronting him alone?

Did you read what I said? I said the dinos can TANK more. I never said WW can take more hits than Ulti.

Oven could tank more than Perospero, and Pero still SHITS on him. Oven was stated to be the most naturally durable Charlotte son, even over Katakuri.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Black Maria received superior portrayal in the cover page and was the last to go down.

when did portrayal in cover pages start to matter lol???

 

[MonsterZoro]

One piece Pics leaks will be out soon because MHA and Black Clover spoilers might be out soon too

Sure buddy

 

[ConquistadoR]

Did you read what I said? I said the dinos can TANK more. I never said WW can take more hits than Ulti.

Oven could tank more than Perospero, and Pero still SHITS on him. Oven was stated to be the most naturally durable Charlotte son, even over Katakuri.

yeah so what has who's who done effectively other than getting fodderized by jinbe? with what feats and portrayal of him apart from him comparing himself to rob lucci are you putting him above ulti lol?

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Nah, canon. Your on the BS, bruh.

Yeah and he talked about Zoro the most about Enma, the sword of that guy and even go to talking on 'Oden's Spirit' on the sword. Not on Zoro. Oden is in Luffy after he talk about top tier Pirates, but sword is the one he talks about his 'spirit'.

Yeah due to Enma getting cut in, not by his own abilities. Again your not proving my point that other swords didn't do anything. We agreeing on matter, but you forcing swords did something, but I am talking about Enma only is the one.

Bullshit. If kaido can mention enma for simple cuts. He for damn sure would have mentioned enma upon receiving another permanent scar if the permanent was only becuase of enma.

Except kaido did not. And decides to mention zoros coc after being physically attacked.

Now why would kaido mention coc after being physically attacked?