Yes this. And yes definitely pretime skip had the same issues however it wasn't to the extend of post time skip. Oda has taken it to a whole new level post time skip. Instead of filler lasting one-two chapters at most pretime skip, it now lasts 8-10 chapters post time skip and there is overwhelming evidence of that. Consider the longest Saga pretime skip which was Water 7 and Ennies Lobby which lasted 109 chapters. Another example is Sabody Archipalego, Amazon Lily, Impel Down, Marine Ford and Ace/Luffy flash COMBINED only took 108 chapters. Now lets compare that to post time skip, Wano alone has 111+. Now the Wano saga which includes Dressrosa and Zou has over 230+ chapters. WCI which was just suppose to be a transitional arc where even Oda and his editors apologized for being so long took 80 chapters. Three of the longest arcs happen in the past three arcs Dressrosa, WCI and now Wano. Oda is over doing it and it is getting out of hand.
General & Others Kaido greatest army in the world false hype by Oda yet again for the thousandth time
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Out of all the Yonko,Kaido has the most impressive army by far:
20k beast pirates+10k samurai+Ninjas+Numbers+Gifters+Flying 6+3 All Star+Yamato+Kaido+Chemical and Biological Weapons+Weapon and smile factories+Doffy alliance on the background+knowledge on location of some ancient weapons it seems!
Kaido would do a number on the WG if he arrived in Marineford!
But of course the Navy is the greatest force!
20k beast pirates+10k samurai+Ninjas+Numbers+Gifters+Flying 6+3 All Star+Yamato+Kaido+Chemical and Biological Weapons+Weapon and smile factories+Doffy alliance on the background+knowledge on location of some ancient weapons it seems!
Kaido would do a number on the WG if he arrived in Marineford!
But of course the Navy is the greatest force!
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It EXACTLY MEANS THAT. LMAO. You can‘t be considered as strong, IF the PORTRAYAL OF AN ALLEGEDLY strong character is utter trash! THE purpose is to OVERCOME these big obstacles in all out fights AND NOT shrug them off in one Chapter. This is not One Punch Man.
Yet again a completely dumb thing to say. IF the portrayal of your opponent is absolutely dogshit, that DOESN‘T make the SH crew automatically stronger LMAO. The SH should never ever be considered STRONGER before the fight is even concluded lmao. Who‘s‘Who a rival to Rob Lucci (back then) should also obviously be automatically stronger than he was back then.. ALL of the crew should suffer in an all out fight and not being considered as stronger Lmao
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Yet again a completely dumb thing to say. IF the portrayal of your opponent is absolutely dogshit, that DOESN‘T make the SH crew automatically stronger LMAO. The SH should never ever be considered STRONGER before the fight is even concluded lmao. Who‘s‘Who a rival to Rob Lucci (back then) should also obviously be automatically stronger than he was back then.. ALL of the crew should suffer in an all out fight and not being considered as stronger Lmao
No one was portrayed like dogshit. The Tobbi Roppo were right under the Calamities as threats. They just lost to opponents that was stronger than them and you are having a hard time accepting that. The SH crew are gaining the rep of a Yonko crew and they are showing you why they are a dangerous crew in Wano. Your issue is that the fights are not drawn out over 5 - 10 chapters. Normally that is only reserve for Luffy.
Lets see. Oda initially introduced the Tobi Robbi being capable of fighting with King, Queen and Jack. Then 40 chapters later, Oda neglects them having them do absolutely nothing other than running around and then when the matches finally started Oda decides to defeat them in less than a chapter each. So yes, they are trash since every one of them got low diffed even though Oda hyped them being capable of beating the commanders.
Jimbe used Haki and Fishman karate and still he got hurt many times in that fight. Franky uses shogun Franky and shogun almost got destroyed and Franky uses a sneak attack to Sasaki to finish the fight. Robin needed both the fishman karate and Dragon fist thing to fight Black Maria. She even got little help from Brook. And now Robin is currently down. I don't think they got low diff.
If you did believe that all Tobi Roppo are capable of defeating a calamity, then you did believe that Beast Pirates had 6 more YC3 level members?
If you did believe that all Tobi Roppo are capable of defeating a calamity, then you did believe that Beast Pirates had 6 more YC3 level members?
Omg, yall fanboys are seriously pathetic. Taking damage does not mean the fight wasn't low diff. Kiku made Kaido scream in pain does that mean it wasn't low diff?! Yall fanboys are so pathetic that any criticism of your God Oda, you guys try to reach for anything to try and justify it. No matter what Oda writes yall will defend. If Oda drew Luffy taking a crap, yall will defend it.
LOL, I feel sorry for you. The way you replied looks like this is the biggest problem of your life.
I just think you got hype thinking TR was said that they can defeat Calamity but nothing confirms they can. That is plain stupid if you ask me. Six YC3 level members, man that doesn't make any sense at all. Haha
Oda does have plot holes in One Piece I admit. But this isn't one.
Oh btw, what's your definition of Low Diff? Is it by the number of chapter?
I just think you got hype thinking TR was said that they can defeat Calamity but nothing confirms they can. That is plain stupid if you ask me. Six YC3 level members, man that doesn't make any sense at all. Haha
Oda does have plot holes in One Piece I admit. But this isn't one.
Oh btw, what's your definition of Low Diff? Is it by the number of chapter?
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I got hyped? I haven't gotten hyped for a single chapter of One Piece since WCI. I don't get hyped. Also, yes I agree having the Tobbi Roppo being able to defeat the Calamities is stupid however that is what Oda implied by hyping them up to go against them. That is Oda's fault. Why are you attacking me on what Oda did? Why did Oda even suggest such a fight can occur?
Also, low diffed is what happened to BM, Sasaki and Whos Who. They were getting wrecked in their base form then they transformed like power rangers to their hybrid form and still got wrecked with barely any exhaustion by the straw hats with a few cuts and bruises and all that was under a chapter. So yes, when considering the difficulty in a fight, the number of chapters and context should be taken into consideration.
Also, low diffed is what happened to BM, Sasaki and Whos Who. They were getting wrecked in their base form then they transformed like power rangers to their hybrid form and still got wrecked with barely any exhaustion by the straw hats with a few cuts and bruises and all that was under a chapter. So yes, when considering the difficulty in a fight, the number of chapters and context should be taken into consideration.
Lmfao I am done. So King saying, "I know you are wanting a spot in the calamities" . Kaido telling them to find and capture Yamato which we see now is able to stall Kaido. Having Kaido give them permission to fight the Calamities. Forcing Luffy to go G4 against them. Yep, Oda definitely didn't imply anything there. Also, you do know what you're saying that since there was no implication of anything, then that situation was pointless hence what you're essentially saying it was all filler. So you agree that it was filler then?
You realize base Luffy couldn't get out of giants grip in Dressrosa. Base Luffy isn't thst strong especially if you rap him up. He would of neg diff Ulti in g4. Yamato would of destroyed them. Just like Queen offered the fidders a chance to be flying 6 yet Sasaki wiped out gifters like noting. Being offered a chance to do something doesn't mean you can. This is just how Kaido crew operates. BM crew doesn't operate like this. Kaido all about strength. You notice King and Queen been in their position for 20 years?
You realize thats after he got Powerup and you didn't listen to what i said. When you rap up base Luffy its hard for him to escape. Thats what Ulti did. Thats what the gisnt in Dressrosa did. Thats what doffy did with his strings. Thsts what cracker did holding him down. Being rap up is different especially for a small guy like Luffy. Luffy even destroyed that same giant in Dressrosa tournament, because he didn't get a chance to rap him up. Ulti took advantage of Luffy bodying Page 1 with g3 to grab him.
Oda never overrated the f6. Luffy knock down Page 1 with a basic G3. Yanato knocked out Ulti. Than we seen Yamato no selling G3 and G2 attacks like its a joke. While Base Luffy blitzed Ulti with no G2 and tossed her.
Oda never overrated the f6. Luffy knock down Page 1 with a basic G3. Yanato knocked out Ulti. Than we seen Yamato no selling G3 and G2 attacks like its a joke. While Base Luffy blitzed Ulti with no G2 and tossed her.
It could also imply that they aren't buddies. That they want to beat the sh*t out of each other and that TR is an ambitious and confident group.
With the g4-ulti issue. Wouldn't it be better for Luffy to use G4 and one shot Ulti than use G3/G2 and fight for hours? Though I don't really want to delve on this one
With the g4-ulti issue. Wouldn't it be better for Luffy to use G4 and one shot Ulti than use G3/G2 and fight for hours? Though I don't really want to delve on this one
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You said hybrid you tool. How was base luffy handling hybrid Kaido? He got destroyed. Did you skip over the giant in Dressrosa you idiot. Also what wrong with Ulti being physically stronger than a commander or same level of physical strength. You realize that speed,endurance, Haki, techniques,df matter in fights too where they will outclass her