Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion

[zzShinichi]

Seppuku, straight up execution, bla bla bla...
Manything can happen and contribute to Kaidou's death. But Kaidou has to die. There's too many times Oda linked Kaidou with death already.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Pathetic death is not something I expect Oda to do with Kaido…
I think if he did that, Oda will invole the wrath of so many fans because many are hoping for a good death and not pathetic one

ive quoted some posts of mine where i talked about it and a theory:

exactly. he doesnt deserve that.

his character arc is surrounding a "grand death". what he should recieve is a pathetic death. the statement that he told kinemon before skewering him ~ "face your death like a warrior! the problem with defeat is that so few people can accept it when it arrives" ~ this alone makes me think that he's gonna die while bawling his eyes out and crying about his legacy being tarnished by his pathetic death. that people wont remember him like they remember roger and whitebeard after their grand/epic deaths.

do you notice how even sengoku said that apart from a few oldtimers in the marines, nobody remembers rocks? but roger and whitebeard are remembered? i think rocks didnt get the grand death that roger and whitebeard got. this could be a huge part of kaido's motivation of making sure people remember him after he gets his "grand death" unlike what happened to his former captain.

also another thing: we see luffy & big mom claim that they wanna become the king of the pirates. but kaido even though he declared that he wants to find the ancient weapons and the one piece, he has never said he wants to become the king of the pirates.

all he is dreaming of, is to die a honourable, grand death so that people remember him long after he has passed like roger and whitebeard. this is the other part of the theory.

EDIT: to die a honourable, grand death, in the process of finding the one piece and ancient weapons

point is he shouldnt get that honourable death that he wants. and once oda's done with the rocks flashback, it'll be even more in tune narratively to break his dream and give him the pathetic death he deserves.

 

[Bounty]

@MarineHQ62 There has to be a cleanup for the villains after every arc. I can't imagine the F6 or the calamities staying imprisoned in Wano after their defeats, the country is going to be opened up to the world afterall

This is one of the main reasons why I feel like there will be marine presence by the end of this arc. Not sure who'll come though :cheers:

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

I wanna ask people who are always talking about Zoro fainting from Killer….

Do you guys think if the fight lasted longer… that Zoro will faint in that point of time? Or do you think he would keep pushing?

 

[Lingardinho]

straight after that he fainted. And killer was massively nerfed. Dont downplay others just to hype your favorite.

It wasnt from the attack tho There is no downplaying the guy couldnt even pull the scythe out and got speed blitzed. He got fodderized even tho he had help from the other guy

 

[draganax]

Here it is.

Zoro is hit and stabbed by Killer. He's not stumbling afterwards. Instead, he stops Killer from pulling the scythe from his body. Does that sound like somebody who's going to fall from an attack. No, it doesn't.

Killer than attacks Zoro again which proves his attack didn't knock out Zoro because if it did Zoro would have fell immediately after and Killer wouldn't have needed to follow up with another attack.

Zoro attacks killer and blitz Killer. Zoro isn't it again and Killer falls. Killer is unconscious on the ground and Zoro is sbove him.

Their battle is over and Zoro won.

Killer couldn't even pull his weapon out of zoro's shoulder, that was pathetic af.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Kaidou the fraud or Kaidou the warrior.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Do you guys think if the fight lasted longer… that Zoro will faint in that point of time? Or do you think he would keep pushing?

i think zoro finished the fight. oda had to introduce a way to move on with the hiyori plotline so zoro fainting there was PIS. zoro was heavily wounded though.

 

[duckman]

idiot zoro fell down because of the poison. Also take this

Sanji was injured and his physical structure compromised prior to that fight by way of an explosion. Second. You're posting Zoro's later reaction to the wound and Sanji's immediate reaction to it.
Why not go further and show some more Zoro and some more Sanji?

There was no poison, Zoro ate bad food that would be like poison to a small child. You know, the same way a flu would be mild to a 20 year old but could murder a 5 year old?

Secondly, it was a mere pirate with a bounty of £200 million vs an experienced Vice Admiral who went on to handle both Law and another Vice Admiral and only lost due to the stupid tactic of running into your opponents sword. Haki users who believe they are invincible against Devil Fruit users because they learn a little haki often die fast. For comparison, a Rear Admiral was given a bounty of £222 million before the time skip.

I mean. if you want to downplay one or the other, you'll have to contend that it varies, but I have no doubt that Vergo would mangle Killer just like Zoro did. Consider, Vergo managed to replicate a Zoro style Kamaitachi attack with pure blunt force. Does Killer even have an answer for this?

 

[Fuckthis3]

Orgy still goin good?

 

[duckman]

@MarineHQ62 There has to be a cleanup for the villains after every arc. I can't imagine the F6 or the calamities staying imprisoned in Wano after their defeats, the country is going to be opened up to the world afterall

This is one of the main reasons why I feel like there will be marine presence by the end of this arc. Not sure who'll come though :cheers:

CP) could arrest them and be chased away by the Samurai. A deal of some sort.

 

[Kromage911]

It's actually quite possible that we won't be getting any flashback for Kaido

I feel like Kaido is more complex than what he appears to be based on the little hints that Oda has provided for us. Kaido's honourable enough to kill the old hag for interfering in his fight with Oden but he's not honourable enough to give Oden a rematch. Also, I feel like more things about him such as his drinking habits will be explored too. He'll get a sad backstory imo.

Why would it be in the middle of the fight?

After his defeat then? Yeah, that makes more sense.

 

[draganax]

I wanna ask people who are always talking about Zoro fainting from Killer….

Do you guys think if the fight lasted longer… that Zoro will faint in that point of time? Or do you think he would keep pushing?

Against someone stronger than killer, he'l dight until he wins.
If the attack is not enough to knock zoro out immidiatly, he'll fight until his purpose is fulfilled.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

ive quoted some posts of mine where i talked about it and a theory:





point is he shouldnt get that honourable death that he wants. and once oda's done with the rocks flashback, it'll be even more in tune narratively to break his dream and give him the pathetic death he deserves.

Believe me I understand your point of view….

I just don’t think Kaido will die in pathetic way…

the best I can see Oda doing is Kaido defeated and NOT getting killed yet… which again disappoints him because he didn’t get killed in the war he worked his life for… saving his death for later EoS arc

but giving him a pathetic death is the last thing I expect from Oda…
Regardless if he’s a villain or not… even Orochi the worst scum didn’t stay dead in that pathetic death he got from Kaido… so Kaido fans, and many in general will hate Oda if Kaido got worse death than Orochi… a more pathetic one

 

[zzShinichi]

I wanna ask people who are always talking about Zoro fainting from Killer….

Do you guys think if the fight lasted longer… that Zoro will faint in that point of time? Or do you think he would keep pushing?

Adrenaline will push him on.
I mean, an injured soldier can keep fighting for a long period of time due to Adrenaline. But when the fight is over, and the adrenaline subsides, he will immediately collapse. Same thing applies to Zoro.
But mainly it's because Oda wants to introduce Hiyori into Zoro's plotline.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

i think zoro finished the fight. oda had to introduce a way to move on with the hiyori plotline so zoro fainting there was PIS. zoro was heavily wounded though.

Exactly my point… the Zoro fainted is only plot for hiyori to make the bond with Zoro

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Against someone stronger than killer, he'l dight until he wins.
If the attack is not enough to knock zoro out immidiatly, he'll fight until his purpose is fulfilled.

Exactly

 

[BillSlipton]

Here it is.

Zoro is hit and stabbed by Killer. He's not stumbling afterwards. Instead, he stops Killer from pulling the scythe from his body. Does that sound like somebody who's going to fall from an attack. No, it doesn't.

Killer than attacks Zoro again which proves his attack didn't knock out Zoro because if it did Zoro would have fell immediately after and Killer wouldn't have needed to follow up with another attack.

Zoro attacks killer and blitz Killer. Zoro isn't it again and Killer falls. Killer is unconscious on the ground and Zoro is sbove him.

Their battle is over and Zoro won.

Dude got the white eyes treatment and dropped to his knees. What more do you want?

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Or Thunder Bagua Or Yeti Cool Bullets or Enel attack.

Thunder bagua didnt ko him

 

[Screws Loose242]

Killer > Sanji and Jinbei imo
Sanji or Jinbei can't scratch Kaido

so hurting kaido barely puts you in the yc level range

 

[ConquistadoR]

Regardless if he’s a villain or not… even Orochi the worst scum didn’t stay dead in that pathetic death he got from Kaido… so Kaido fans, and many in general will hate Oda if Kaido got worse death than Orochi… a more pathetic one

oh orochi's dying dont get it twisted. the very idea of giving momo the ame no habakiri is for him to lob off the remaining 1 head of orochi (kaido took off 1, scabbards took off 6 out of the 8).

going by japanese lore, the ame no habakiri is the sword the god susannoo used to kill orochi (the eight headed snake demon), before reuniting with his sister god, amaterasu.

i think both kaidou and orochi are dying this arc. but yeah these are all just theories tho. lets wait and see what oda does.