Should we keep D1 start in the game?


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Emil

Kekko Taro
You just scum read him because he scum reads you.
not necessary, i had him as a potential scum just from his first post cuz it was oddly timed and selective
i was being wagoned up and he randomly comes to throw more shade my way then leaves. its pretty scummy in itself

he has yet to comment on literally anything else by 2 of my posts and day 1 is like 5 hours away from ending

he basically fulfilled min post count without literally saying anything of value
 

Emil

Kekko Taro
not necessary, i had him as a potential scum just from his first post cuz it was oddly timed and selective
i was being wagoned up and he randomly comes to throw more shade my way then leaves. its pretty scummy in itself

he has yet to comment on literally anything else by 2 of my posts and day 1 is like 5 hours away from ending

he basically fulfilled min post count without literally saying anything of value
but*
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"

@Lindltaylor on our bond, you wouldn't lie to me would you?

Are you town this game?

If so who do you wanna vote, let's get this shit started.
Yepp, I'm town.

Tbh, I'm still unsure on who to go for. So far, Xlaw coming with that claim request for Flower from a joke wagon was weird. I don't know about Al tunneling Usopp all game long. Feels forced. For Usopp, it's hard for me to say, honestly. His WIFOM defenses really don't help us determine his alignment. Drago, well, let's say he has too many scum reads as opposed to town reads. Some of them, I don't really agree with the reasons. Especially previously when he was saying Melon was suspicious.

Among these 4, Xlaw is my strongest scum read right now. I would lynch him at the moment.
 

Emil

Kekko Taro
How is this a defence? I haven't taken anything out of context, in fact quite the opposite is true - the context is right there, quoted directly within the posts themselves. You can't just tell me it's not happening. Like what do you expect me to say here? "Oh sorry Usopp, disregard what I just said, you're right, no you don't need to establish what you're saying at all". I can understand not wanting to go mano-a-mano with me, I wouldn't want to go back and forth with me in Mafia either, but if you aren't going to defend my points then I can only assume that you're conceding them, in which case, I'm pretty happy to push on with your lynch. So you know, for your next post, either refute what I'm saying or explain it with the appropriate context.
i dont have to defend on anything, u arent making a case u r making an assumption ratchet
make a proper case then i will defend
 
Yepp, I'm town.

Tbh, I'm still unsure on who to go for. So far, Xlaw coming with that claim request for Flower from a joke wagon was weird. I don't know about Al tunneling Usopp all game long. Feels forced. For Usopp, it's hard for me to say, honestly. His WIFOM defenses really don't help us determine his alignment. Drago, well, let's say he has too many scum reads as opposed to town reads. Some of them, I don't really agree with the reasons. Especially previously when he was saying Melon was suspicious.

Among these 4, Xlaw is my strongest scum read right now. I would lynch him at the moment.
Im down for Xlaw.

@Flower
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
yea wasnt he in rej's game?

its not about the text wall, every1 can text wall
its about its content

this man only read 3 of my posts and makes up the whole rest of the story then drops the vote
wuda been better if he just voted without this fabrication and slander
You keep falling back on the fact that my suspicion relies on just a handful of posts. But really, that's irrelevant. Because for any sem-experienced player, there are going to be posts that are not as congruent or sound as you would hope from town, because players are human (kinda), and there are going to be posts that are very good. And if you want me to consider the whole body of work then I'm pretty sure there would be more good than not. But that's not how scum hunting works. I'm not making a list of pros and cons, because there are going to be pros, and there are going to be cons. I'm looking at things that stick out to me, and focusing on that, because it's within the mistakes that scum are found. And in this case, your early posting by forcing a town read that I see no reason for town to force, and your subsequent defence of it, strike me as mistakes borne from you being scum. And can I just say, it's pretty rich of you to accuse me of "shading" your post. Over the course of our discourse, you've attempted to discredit my arguments, without actually doing the hard work of discrediting my arguments. You've pointed to this, you've pointed to that, but none of it has delved into the real meat and bones of the matter. And that, Usopp, is what I would call the defintion of the term "shading".
 

Emil

Kekko Taro
fuji is a strong town read of mine now, he was weak town read on the first page cuz i was iffy if hes town or not

i have numerous posts saying why he is town, go and read those

my post day 1 is not indicative of a mafia read whatsoever, ur basing ur entire wonky case off that
 

Lindltaylor

There's no "Tina!"
Have you ever seen him post Text walls as scum?
Tbh, Ratchet posts text walls as scum, town or any alignment. Nobody here has played with Prime ratchet other than Drago, AL and myself, but Ratchet would usually post A LOT of text walls each day.

So read Ratchet from his contents and posts.

yea wasnt he in rej's game?
In Rej's game, he was a survivor - Perespero, I think. So you can't really use that against him.

what kinda effort is this lind??
What do you mean Effort? There is no effort there, Al. It's saying it as how I saw it. You have to explain your effort to me, Al. What do you think Ekko is exactly? Mafia? or Indie? I never saw you make a conclusion on his alignment.
 
I don't know where this misconception of me being lazy as town is coming from. I've been inactive, yes, but that's only due to circumstance, not out of laziness. I know I haven't played much games here so I don't have that big of a sample size to draw from, but in every single game I've played here, I played with effort. Town or scum. I was inactive for one game that being the Dragon Ball game from Fuji. And again, that was due to circumstance. I was online early D1 but disappeared because I had a track meet which took up the whole day. I return and I'm lynched. Circumstance, not laziness.

I've been mostly ignoring the suspicion on me, but this is one that's actually ticking me off. I will get defensive over it.
you arent typically this aggressive particularly early on
which was why i said you are overcompensating
but dont dial it back
its a soft read and I dont think anyone is particularly pushing a vote rn . little reason to get defensive over it


you changing how you are scum-hunting tbh currently so that you will look better will be even more damning actually.
 
Tbh, Ratchet posts text walls as scum, town or any alignment. Nobody here has played with Prime ratchet other than Drago, AL and myself, but Ratchet would usually post A LOT of text walls each day.

So read Ratchet from his contents and posts.


In Rej's game, he was a survivor - Perespero, I think. So you can't really use that against him.


What do you mean Effort? There is no effort there, Al. It's saying it as how I saw it. You have to explain your effort to me, Al. What do you think Ekko is exactly? Mafia? or Indie? I never saw you make a conclusion on his alignment.
No we talking about Rejs Hololive game. Its NAI, its all about if you like what he's writing or not.
 
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