[FNZ] Salem of Lies Round 2 - Town of Salem Test Take 2

[krogothwolf]

Vote lynch Xlaw

The past couple of pages are full of text walls. I really don't have the energy to read those.
Hot take: Flowa vs Usopp was T vs T. Though I usually read them wrong, but imma go with this.

Also why are we voting Odd? He barely said anything except for asking for claims.

Why are we voting X-law as well? Odd seems to be a drago initiative which he said he would explain....eventually.

 

[Juliet]

Vote lynch Xlaw

The past couple of pages are full of text walls. I really don't have the energy to read those.
Hot take: Flowa vs Usopp was T vs T. Though I usually read them wrong, but imma go with this.

Also why are we voting Odd? He barely said anything except for asking for claims.

I'm on page 20 slowly catching up and I have also iso 5 players. You said why are we voing odd for barely saying anything except asking for claims. From what I have read so far it looked like Xlaw is also getting scum read asking for a claim and since I see you are voting Xlaw who also asked for a claim, what's the difference between Xlaw and odd?

 

[Flower]

Why are we voting X-law as well? Odd seems to be a drago initiative which he said he would explain....eventually.

His role fishing and lack of Town mindset.

 

[Lindltaylor]

Could drago just be paranoid on Odd?

Also Isn't it a bit cliche to read ScumAl as scum? :D Its almost as tropy as scum flower.

I think we will have to wait for Drago's case on Odd tbh. Haven't seen much from Odd other than what I pointed out to Flower. Which is basically all his posts in this game so far. Really seems weird play to come from scum Odd.

Long duration, several phases, same difference, dude. My point still stands. Tunneling only really occurs when someone has undeveloped reads and is trying to force the same scum read from a while ago. Al wasn't tunneling. He was only applying pressure. Whether or not he applied it for 5 mins or 30 mins, he was only applying pressure. You could hardly call what he did tunneling.

So you think Al doesn't have underdeveloped reads and is applying pressure on Ekko. Well, alright, let's call it pressure. I call it tunnel vision. My long duration just seems shorter than yours is what I'm getting and that we have different opinions on Al's case on Ekko.

Possible that my read on Al is wrong, so not denying that you can't be right about what he's doing.

 

[Dragomir]

Anyway, I'm caught up.

Also why are we voting Odd? He barely said anything except for asking for claims.

And that is precisely why he's scummy.

Odd has done jack fucking shit. Odd this whole game has coasted. He's watched everything from the sidelines, refusing to partake in any of the ongoing discussions. He's sat idly by making few commentaries. On the topic of him asking for claims, he watched the Usopp vs Everyone exchange and only posting to fish for Usopp's claim. And with asking for Usopp to claim, then he says he wants to stack up on Light next. He want Usopp to claim to resolve the argument, but I don't buy that. With the hard coasting mode he's in, he is not game-solving nor hunting anybody. All he wants is claims for the sake of it. It was an attempt to take advantage of ToS's heavy claiming aspect to fish them out. Fishing out claims this early really only helps one faction: scum. More specifically mafia.

Aside from just fishing for claims, Odd not doing jack the entire game, avoiding getting his hands dirty on all the active discussions is damning enough. The fishing makes it much worse. It's similar to my read on Xlaw with how he fished for Flower's claim, but Odd here is much deeper with it and looks worse in my eyes than Law does.

Let's lynch Odd.

 

[Dragomir]

So you think Al doesn't have underdeveloped reads and is applying pressure on Ekko. Well, alright, let's call it pressure. I call it tunnel vision. My long duration just seems shorter than yours is what I'm getting and that we have different opinions on Al's case on Ekko.

Possible that my read on Al is wrong, so not denying that you can't be right about what he's doing.

Let's just agree to disagree, I guess. It's not that important.

 

[krogothwolf]

His role fishing and lack of Town mindset.

I remember him wanting to vote you early on which I thought was just pointless. Flower vote is an easy vote to be honest but it could just be lazy play.

I don't like role fishing this early though, even in a ToS game. Honestly though its weird starting Day 1 with this as we don't even know what we're looking at but still, role fishing is way to early for that crap. Its like trying to lure out a power role to know what or who to kill/target. No info so no need to role fish.

 

[Dragomir]

@Wris why did you just come in and sheep a vote on Law?

 

[Yuelyn]

Why are we voting X-law as well? Odd seems to be a drago initiative which he said he would explain....eventually.

Because he is totally different from the previous ToS game we played together.
Also, this might seem like OMGUS, but it really isn't. His reason to sus me is just stupid. He didn't like that I voted Flowa even though I thought Fuji was an exe. I totally did the same thing last game, where Fuji (mafia) asked me to vote for a random player to test their reaction. It just seemed like Xlaw was trying to find someone to sus or something. Cuz this is just weak reasoning.

Yep, I saw Drago's post.

 

[Yuelyn]

I'm on page 20 slowly catching up and I have also iso 5 players. You said why are we voing odd for barely saying anything except asking for claims. From what I have read so far it looked like Xlaw is also getting scum read asking for a claim and since I see you are voting Xlaw who also asked for a claim, what's the difference between Xlaw and odd?

Because he is totally different from the previous ToS game we played together.
Also, this might seem like OMGUS, but it really isn't. His reason to sus me is just stupid. He didn't like that I voted Flowa even though I thought Fuji was an exe. I totally did the same thing last game, where Fuji (mafia) asked me to vote for a random player to test their reaction. It just seemed like Xlaw was trying to find someone to sus or something. Cuz this is just weak reasoning.

Yep, I saw Drago's post.

 

[krogothwolf]

Anyway, I'm caught up.

And that is precisely why he's scummy.

Odd has done jack fucking shit. Odd this whole game has coasted. He's watched everything from the sidelines, refusing to partake in any of the ongoing discussions. He's sat idly by making few commentaries. On the topic of him asking for claims, he watched the Usopp vs Everyone exchange and only posting to fish for Usopp's claim. And with asking for Usopp to claim, then he says he wants to stack up on Light next. He want Usopp to claim to resolve the argument, but I don't buy that. With the hard coasting mode he's in, he is not game-solving nor hunting anybody. All he wants is claims for the sake of it. It was an attempt to take advantage of ToS's heavy claiming aspect to fish them out. Fishing out claims this early really only helps one faction: scum. More specifically mafia.

Aside from just fishing for claims, Odd not doing jack the entire game, avoiding getting his hands dirty on all the active discussions is damning enough. The fishing makes it much worse. It's similar to my read on Xlaw with how he fished for Flower's claim, but Odd here is much deeper with it and looks worse in my eyes than Law does.

Let's lynch Odd.

So you're basically comparing Xlaw and odd as the same bad apples right now but od looks more suspicious. With no info though there is no reason to press for claims unless you find someone suspect, nothing usopp has done is overly suspicious, though I think he was voting flower earlier which I always find funny cause scum flower is an easy take but everyone does it so shouldn't be taken to seriously.

 

[AL sama]

Overall, the reasons to suspect Usopp, to be frank, suck. His "slips" are nonsense. I already explained why Flower's wasn't actually a slip. And really to me, Flower is just coming across as spiteful towards Usopp for him being happy about lynching a town Flower(which is a boost in her favor. Makes me town read her more, but it still wasn't a slip). Al's slip, I don't really understand. I get what Usopp was trying to say. If he, me, and Xlaw are scum but not together then logically, at least 2 of us are indies. What Usopp is saying is that none of us can be buddies together, ergo at least two of us have gotta be indies. That's the logic.

let me explain

usopp assumed there's 1 mafia and 2 indies on my list even before I specified it

doesn't that fit the bill if he is mafia while he knows you and law aren't

 

[Yuelyn]

@Wris why did you just come in and sheep a vote on Law?

He was one of the players I was sussing. So I don't see how I'm sheeping rn.

 

[Yuelyn]

He was one of the players I was sussing. So I don't see how I'm sheeping rn.

Also I just gave my reason for that vote again.

 

[Flower]

@Dragomir I don't see how odd is worse than Law when odd wanted a claim from his suspect while Law wanted a claim from his suspect's suspect. Law is a lot worse here.

 

[krogothwolf]

Because he is totally different from the previous ToS game we played together.
Also, this might seem like OMGUS, but it really isn't. His reason to sus me is just stupid. He didn't like that I voted Flowa even though I thought Fuji was an exe. I totally did the same thing last game, where Fuji (mafia) asked me to vote for a random player to test their reaction. It just seemed like Xlaw was trying to find someone to sus or something. Cuz this is just weak reasoning.

Yep, I saw Drago's post.

Honestly the flower thing feels like a trope at this point that I just tend to ignore it unless someone has an actual good reason to lynch flower, its just an easy joke play cause "Scum flower"

 

[Flower]

Honestly the flower thing feels like a trope at this point that I just tend to ignore it unless someone has an actual good reason to lynch flower, its just an easy joke play cause "Scum flower"

And this is why I like you, Kro <3.

 

[Yuelyn]

Anyway, I'm caught up.

And that is precisely why he's scummy.

Odd has done jack fucking shit. Odd this whole game has coasted. He's watched everything from the sidelines, refusing to partake in any of the ongoing discussions. He's sat idly by making few commentaries. On the topic of him asking for claims, he watched the Usopp vs Everyone exchange and only posting to fish for Usopp's claim. And with asking for Usopp to claim, then he says he wants to stack up on Light next. He want Usopp to claim to resolve the argument, but I don't buy that. With the hard coasting mode he's in, he is not game-solving nor hunting anybody. All he wants is claims for the sake of it. It was an attempt to take advantage of ToS's heavy claiming aspect to fish them out. Fishing out claims this early really only helps one faction: scum. More specifically mafia.

Aside from just fishing for claims, Odd not doing jack the entire game, avoiding getting his hands dirty on all the active discussions is damning enough. The fishing makes it much worse. It's similar to my read on Xlaw with how he fished for Flower's claim, but Odd here is much deeper with it and looks worse in my eyes than Law does.

Let's lynch Odd.

I have no read on Odd, but I'm fine with lynching him based on what you just explained above.

 

[Ratchet]

on another note

ayaka sux @Ratchet

(sorry, can't respond to the rest right now)

 

[Dragomir]

So you're basically comparing Xlaw and odd as the same bad apples right now but od looks more suspicious. With no info though there is no reason to press for claims unless you find someone suspect, nothing usopp has done is overly suspicious, though I think he was voting flower earlier which I always find funny cause scum flower is an easy take but everyone does it so shouldn't be taken to seriously.

I agree with you, Krogo. I don't care about claims for this game at least not for this phase. Players will claim when we vote them up. And yes, there's no need to press for claims unless you find the person suspicious. Odd had voted Usopp on page one, but he completed deviated from interacting with him going forward. Like an actual putting pressure interaction. He sat back, watched Usopp get hounded by everyone and then started asking for his claim. Then he proceeded to setup stacking on Light to get his claim too. He's about the claims, not game-solving.

Do you agree with me that Odd is suspicious?