[FNZ] Role Madness [Season 2] Round 11 - JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Diamond is Unbreakable

[Lindltaylor]

That's Fuji and Prof out of the way. Moving on to others:

Conquist wanted Destroya lynched no matter what so I don't think they're a team at all. Conquist is town for now.
T-pein was literally still pushing for a dest lynch EoD and I don't think he's a conversion target either. He's town for now.

Tobi - Zara was going to push him and he seemed really out of the game since he didn't even know he was the counter to Zara's wagon.
This could be bussing, but we have Rej saying that Tobi visited Zara, and Zara did not visit Tobi. So unless the r/p/s is a conversion ability, Tobi should be town. Since we saw no one else visit Zara on night 1.

You can suspect that Rej is doing the conversions since he visited Zara on night 1 and then Tobi on night 2, but then he would have no reason to out Zara on day 3 then. So he can't be doing the conversions, which means he's a watcher and because he outed mafia, he is town.

From the above reasoning Tobi and Rej are town for now.

 

[Rej]

Any read on T Pein ?

Hard. He bullshitted his way through till last ohase when he finally became more cohessive and he always been anti Destroyer? Idk. He is def shemy.
He would do this as scum. Be vocal against his own mateys. I mean he could be anything.

Sometimes during this game I got the feeling he was still in his Midnight role.

 

[Lindltaylor]

So we can remove - Fuji, Prof, Conquist, T-pein, Tobi, and Rej from the suspect pool for now, which leaves us with:

Xlaw - Solis who wanted Zara out on day 1. Since I assume that Zara started off as mafia, I don't think Solis started off as scum. I don't think he was converted either since he's been pretty afk until Xlaw subbed in. Xlaw said that he attacked Destroya with a action burn ability and Dyna came out and said that he redirected Xlaw to Dest. Honestly, I think I'll trust Xlaw for now since he seems genuine to me.

That leaves us with:

Hayumi - Whom I'm yet to confirm.
You - The read I gave above.
Dyna same as the read I gave above.

It keeps circling back to you 3 here. We need Dest's flip and see what his role is to question the rest of my town reads.

 

[Lindltaylor]

He would do this as scum. Be vocal against his own mateys. I mean he could be anything.

He would bus his teammates? But do you think he would bus Destroya in that situation? Many players went on the Rhea wagon, some of whom were town too.

But I guess we can question him later. We need some sort of invest here. Going off of reads is becoming tedious.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

nah,
You are the next SCUM.
you better pray destroyer doesnt flip scum.

vote lynch Destroyer.

Fruitji knows who I am. I’m not scum I just had a mechanical reason to think Jotaro shouldn’t have been one shot.

 

[Fujishiro]

Don't be hasty. Rhea's flip is completely fake. Don't believe it for a second. Why the hell would just a dog be in this game? That's stupid.

Oh god, Juliet was the Dog fam. Not Rhea.

Can't seem to keep your story straight innit?

 

[Hayumi]

Do you know it? Yes/No.

Yes. Obviously that’s why I asked what about it?

 

[Destroya]

I'm shocked that no one wanted to take my deal. I was hoping Town would show me some good faith for the info I'm about to drop, but I was planning on letting you guys know regardless. Still hurts, but whatever.

On N2 we Role Copped Lind and we got Red Hot Chili Pepper. We found out a couple of things about his role. First, once the players have gone down to fifty percent, Pepper gains the ability to kill.

Second, Pepper cannot target Cult while Kira is still alive. This is why I was debating exposing them or not because they're not really a threat to us. However, my conversion got fucked up this game so my squad is a bit smaller than I would have liked. Exposing Pepper I think balances this game a bit more for everyone.

Third, Pepper has a Vest which I assume is to protect against us and Vigs. We've killed or disabled all the Vigs in this game, so Pepper shouldn't have to worry about that from Town anymore.

Overall, I'd rather not see Pepper win, but do with this information as you'd like. Since Kira can't be lynched until the Cult is gone, Pepper won't be able to touch us and is zero threat to us. However eventually it'll be in everyone's best interest to get the Indie out of this game, so I thought I'd given you a heads up with what you're dealing with.

 

[Destroya]

Kind of pissed Town Ratchet would switch me and Cal around when Cal was scummy D1 and I wasn't. Such a bad coincidence that we were switched right before our fake check on Cal and his push and lynch.

 

[Adam 🍎]

My theory is i got redirected to Destroya . And role blocked due to his action (active ) and he also learned my action. In that case both Destroya and Dyna are buddies.

How does this make sense?

If that is the case i would literally redirect someone to the worst possible place.
If i was mafia trying to fuck you over i would redirect you towards a townie. No matter which role you might have it would be a bonus.

But somehow you think i would waste a redirect on you while destroya uses rb? Why waste 2 action controllers on a single person?

 

[Xlaw]

How does this make sense?

If that is the case i would literally redirect someone to the worst possible place.
If i was mafia trying to fuck you over i would redirect you towards a townie. No matter which role you might have it would be a bonus.

But somehow you think i would waste a redirect on you while destroya uses rb? Why waste 2 action controllers on a single person?

If I had redirect ability , i would have used it on Destroya and would have redirect him toward second most scumy player..

 

[Adam 🍎]

If I had redirect ability , i would have used it on Destroya and would have redirect him toward second most scumy player..

Which would be who then?

I don't find people particularly scummy besides him. Any other person would be me guessing with 50/50 at best and i don't find that promising. Blind redirecting a scum with most likely offensive abilities towards - at least in my eyes - a 50/50 isn't good.

Redirecting you however was promising. Because A) i get to find out what you are based on what happens to destroya and B) i had a feeling you are a vig so i risked it.

 

[Adam 🍎]

On top of that Destroya being an outted scum would most likely result in him being RB'ed so my redirect would be null

 

[Destroya]

I want to apologize to @Lindltaylor for exposing him like this; you actually played a great game! And I really do appreciate you unvoting for me at the last minute in order to save my ass and make Town mislynch me again; rng was lucky for me. I bet you didn't think we knew who you were, but you understand I need my team to win and exposing the truth of the Indie (I've been calling you Lindie in the chat) helps achieve that.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Which would be who then?

I don't find people particularly scummy besides him. Any other person would be me guessing with 50/50 at best and i don't find that promising. Blind redirecting a scum with most likely offensive abilities towards - at least in my eyes - a 50/50 isn't good.

Redirecting you however was promising. Because A) i get to find out what you are based on what happens to destroya and B) i had a feeling you are a vig so i risked it.

On top of that Destroya being an outted scum would most likely result in him being RB'ed so my redirect would be null

These are good explanations I’ll admit. Still based on you being a cult candidate, claiming you stole the conversation conveniently right after Dest’s mechanical check against him, and your switch to Rhea I still think you’re probably scum.

Switching to Rhea alone wouldn’t bother me much by itself if you weren’t an outed conversion candidate since D1. It’s the Rhea pushers that were also outed cult candidates that are highly suspect to me.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

With Dest being Scum you were a perfect cult candidate since you’d been at each other’s throats. If either one of you flipped the other could push for Town cred for going after Scum.

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

But from PoE it has to be you guys. Cause our speculation is that mafia started with 2 members and could convert up to 3 more. We don't know if they failed on night 3 other than Dyna's words.

So let's speculate more on that idea and I'll show you how it's basically impossible for me to be mafia.

I've been scum in like 10 outta 15 games here. You've never seen me claim miller. Do you think I'd waste my miller claim now all of a sudden? Nah, I wouldn't want to shoot myself in the foot by claiming miller when scum due to all the potential miller roles I could get in the future. So I think it's fine to say that couldn't be the starting member.

Now say Dest and Zara were the starting members. I tunneled Zara D1, was going to lynch him too on D2 until we got the mechanical check on Cal.

Now onto the more important part. I got silenced and rolecrushed on N2. That's definitely a scum ability. If I were a member of the mafia or converted by then why would someone do that to me? As I said I definitely don't think that that is something a townie would have. Now of course you can say I faked it, but if I were scum why would I do so? You know that scum rule the night. If I faked being silenced and didn't post anything I would get modblocked. You know how damning that is for a scum.

Now onto N3. Dyna said he stole the ability to convert. So if he's telling the truth it means he was targeted N3. If he isn't telling the truth it means he got converted at some point. Now I don't think he's a starting member of mafia, he was really anti anti mafia during the first couple of days. Taking that into account either Dyna is telling the truth, or he was converted on N3.


See how I don't fit anywhere. The only possible time I could have gotten converted was last night and that's if Dyna is lying.

 

[Xlaw]

These are good explanations I’ll admit. Still based on you being a cult candidate, claiming you stole the conversation conveniently right after Dest’s mechanical check against him, and your switch to Rhea I still think you’re probably scum.

Switching to Rhea alone wouldn’t bother me much by itself if you weren’t an outed conversion candidate since D1. It’s the Rhea pushers that were also outed cult candidates that are highly suspect to me.

His claim is really convient , how can his action failed on me ? He sliped there

Wwll it doesnt matter because my action failed on you. I thought you are vig so i wanted you to shoot Destroya Told him ill get a gun eventually

I got message of being failed , yet Destroya claimed being hit by it.

 

[Destroya]

His claim is really convient , how can his action failed on me ? He sliped there

I got message of being failed , yet Destroya claimed being hit by it.

I didn't get hit last night. You guys literally wasted all your abilities on me and I didn't even use any. In fact, I'm kind of like a Vanilla Wolf at the moment.

 

[Destroya]

I did get hit last night. You guys literally wasted all your abilities on me and I didn't even use any. In fact, I'm kind of like a Vanilla Wolf at the moment.

Edit. I know you guys all targeted me last night but I didn't do jack shit so you wasted everything.