[FNZ] Role Madness [Season 2] Round 12 - Genshin Impact

[MistyCatGoddess]

And there I thought we could be friends

LOL

 

[MistyCatGoddess]

We need to use LD really smartly here.

We could have everyone say, I'm not cult?

Here I'll start: I'm not cult

 

[ConquistadoR]

We could have everyone say, I'm not cult?

Here I'll start: I'm not cult

thats not how fuji/dyna's lie detect works right?
he submits a statement and gets result next day phase iirc

 

[Ratchet]

kamisato ayaka.
im outside rn ill post more in a while.

Thank you. You are second best girl (Noelle, the first best girl, better be in this game).

We could have everyone say, I'm not cult?

Here I'll start: I'm not cult

This wouldn't work, because Lie Detectors only investigate posts indepedent of context. So, one "I am not Cult" will work, but not every single one. So we'd only be checking one person. Which might then be converted after this cycle.

 

[MistyCatGoddess]

thats not how fuji/dyna's lie detect works right?
he submits a statement and gets result next day phase iirc

I must have skimmed over his explanation tbh

What bothers me, who was the kill from? Do we really have mafia left? And who could be the culted by now.
God this is a mess

 

[ConquistadoR]

We could have everyone say, I'm not cult?

Here I'll start: I'm not cult

and of all statements im not cult is stupidly easu to dodge since there are mafia and maybe indies as well in the game.

 

[Underworld Broker]

Saying "i'm town" is better, no?

"I'm not cult" literally leaves the LD open for mafia to hide since they wouldnt be lying if they say they're not cult

 

[Adam 🍎]

We could have everyone say, I'm not cult?

Here I'll start: I'm not cult

Well one thing is to say, another is to pick the right target to check

 

[MistyCatGoddess]

and of all statements im not cult is stupidly easu to dodge since there are mafia and maybe indies as well in the game.

True, but I think cult is the most pressing rn. But the fact he gets the result only tomorrow makes it worthless for that if he gets a true result.

 

[Ratchet]

Saying "i'm town" is better, no?

"I'm not cult" literally leaves the LD open for mafia to hide since they wouldnt be lying if they say they're not cult

Strictly speaking, one should be as explicit as possible. So the statement should be "My alignment is Town".

 

[MistyCatGoddess]

Strictly speaking, one should be as explicit as possible. So the statement should be "My alignment is Town".

Let's do that then? And dyna checks the most sus player in his eyes?

 

[ConquistadoR]

Let's do that then? And dyna checks the most sus player in his eyes?

dont think thats how his ability eorks but anyway my alignment is town.

 

[Ratchet]

Let's do that then? And dyna checks the most sus player in his eyes?

Probably, though the issue with the Cult is that if the lie detector tests whether it was true on the Day, then the result may ultimately be a false positive of sorts. As in, Player A says they're Town Day 6, but they're recruited at the end of Day 6. DynaMight, who used his role on Day 6, receives that the statement is true, because it was true when it was made. I think we need to be more explicit, and look around for the first or second conversion.

 

[Ratchet]

And honestly, I'd rather not get too hung up on a lie detector result that isn't verified and could be coming from a Culted player or a player who gets Culted today. We have time to set it up, but it shouldn't be the lynchpin of our Day Phase, in my opinion.

 

[MistyCatGoddess]

I mean I dont mind anyone having a better idea to find cult.. I just feel a bit overwhelmed by how quickly they became so big
But maybe tpein has some info

 

[Ratchet]

I still can't shake the feeling that we're missing something, though. A Cult, that can recruit after the main recruiter has been killed, can also recruit during the Day, bypassing the ability to stop it via blocks? It does not make sense to me. That seems too powerful. I know I tend to be overly conservative when it comes to theory crafting these role madness setups, but I'm not convinced it's as straightforward as it appears to be here.

 

[ConquistadoR]

@Ratchet im just asking based purely on flavour but can you think of indie flavoured characters other than andrius with a peculiar wincon like nat's (lynch aether, diluc etc) ?

 

[MistyCatGoddess]

I still can't shake the feeling that we're missing something, though. A Cult, that can recruit after the main recruiter has been killed, can also recruit during the Day, bypassing the ability to stop it via blocks? It does not make sense to me. That seems too powerful. I know I tend to be overly conservative when it comes to theory crafting these role madness setups, but I'm not convinced it's as straightforward as it appears to be here.

Im not sure I follow

 

[Adam 🍎]

I still can't shake the feeling that we're missing something, though. A Cult, that can recruit after the main recruiter has been killed, can also recruit during the Day, bypassing the ability to stop it via blocks? It does not make sense to me. That seems too powerful. I know I tend to be overly conservative when it comes to theory crafting these role madness setups, but I'm not convinced it's as straightforward as it appears to be here.

In many games i played or hosted the cult leader can appoint a new scrub to convert , such as the case in throne of lies

 

[Ratchet]

@Ratchet im just asking based purely on flavour but can you think of indie flavoured characters other than andrius with a peculiar wincon like nat's (lynch aether, diluc etc) ?

Several, yeah. Childe, a Fatui Harbinger, could have a win con requiring him to kill several characters like Andrius, for instance, because while he belongs to the enemy faction, he works mostly away from them. Then there are the Hillichurls, an indiginous race that are mostly the fodder of the series. To name but two.

Im not sure I follow

I'm saying that I'm not convinced that the Cult is genuinely recruiting every single Day Phase. They might be, but that would strike me as absurdly powerful in that context, because Day recruit + recruit after leader death + strong flavour claims makes them very difficult to stop. Nigh on impossible, even.