Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1025 Spoilers Discussion

[Seraphoenix]

Fresh Zoro without any injuries all might> > > > half dead Zoro after he tanked hakai with all his bones broken

Nope. Vivre card is clear that his condition did not affect his Ashura. Zoro even says it's his best attack :cheers:

When this trash can become a clown lmao


Is you in damage control that vivrecard stated King + Kaido = Whole RPS combined

Don't cry because Zoro couldn't knock Kaido down with his best attack. While Luffy did it multiple times

Don't cry little one. Remember Zoro will beat Ling. You still have that going for you

 

[m0nst3Rx]

non serious G2 Luffy made Fujitora huff huff huff huff means a lot

Mihawk is waiting for a swordmaster who surpasses Shanks. Not fighter. That's why that Vegapunk toy replacement keeps running when Shanks challenges him. Can't postpone like with Vista

it said Strongest Swordsman

it took Whole RHPs to take King lmao
Cant belive shanks fodder is a fucking fodder


Zoro > King = Shanks

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Nope. Vivre card is clear that his condition did not affect his Ashura. Zoro even says it's his best attack :cheers:

Don't cry because Zoro couldn't knock Kaido down with his best attack. While Luffy did it multiple times

Don't cry little one. Remember Zoro will beat Ling. You still have that going for you

Zoro beating no2 in the beast pirates that only no1 Capable to do
dont cry mf

 

[Black]

Nope. Vivre card is clear that his condition did not affect his Ashura. Zoro even says it's his best attack :cheers:

Don't cry because Zoro couldn't knock Kaido down with his best attack. While Luffy did it multiple times

Don't cry little one. Remember Zoro will beat Ling. You still have that going for you

But he didn't damage kaido the way Woro did, this is some irrefutable fact. :cheers:

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Well, He's saying he will be the King because he is not the King now.

 

[Peroroncino]

It's all fax.



VCs mostly just explain stuff that already happened in the manga, although they tend to exaggerate things and make mistakes here and there. This is "Sabo is dead" all over again.

A VC saying Sabo was dead isn't wrong it's not a mistake they just didn't want to spoil people

 

[zzShinichi]

My heart skipped a beat when Lance posted something in the summary thread

 

[Seraphoenix]

Except it wasn't 1 second. The only translation which says this is the english one. In the german one it is only said ''you managed to block it even if it was just for a short period of time, Thanks!''. Which makes muuuch more sense than 1 second. Zoro had a full blown conversation and the other 4 had time to react to what zoro did. All that happened in 1 second? We are not in dragonball super where everyone is moving, talking, pissing, laughing faster than the speed of light omegalul.

No Law if he even saved Zoro at all would only have done so after Zoro tanked most of that attack then redirected the rest upwards
He was having a conversation with the supernovas while blocking that alone takes more than a sec :cheers:

Manga says Hakai was one second.

*Zoro fans: you are wrong

it said Strongest Swordsman

it took Whole RHPs to take King lmao
Cant belive shanks fodder is a fucking fodder


Zoro > King = Shanks

Mr postpone is too scared to fight Shanks. Was too scared to fight WB. He got denied by YC2 Jozu and then decided to hide and try and fight Luffy when he realised YCs are too strong

Vista may well have taken the title if Sengoku didn't save Mihawk

Red-Hair pirates sent Kaido and King away with no injuries. Cry more

 

[PuckTheGreat]

I can see the slander on the horizon but I’m finna go on a limb and call it 💪🏿😤
Momo is gonna open up Kaido’s scar


The argument most will make is that it makes zero sense from a PL perspective but tbh it also made zero sense for the scabbards or even the Supernova on the roof save Luffy to be able to hurt Kaido but from a narrative perspective it does which is what ended up happening 😅

So y’all prolly be better served thinking about this from a narrative perspective as opposed to a PL perspective.

Reasons why I think Momo opens up Kaido’s scar are:
1. Oda has made it a point to highlight Momonosuke practicing his swordsmanship several times since this saga began so he’d most likely be utilizing his swordsmanship at some point in this arc. One could argue that this will be utilized against Orochi which is a fair argument but from a narrative point of view, Kaido is also fair game and I’d argue that it makes a lot more sense for it to be Kaido than Orochi. Only reason why people discount Kaido is coz they think Momo is weak & Kaido is too strong so they match him up against the weakling Orochi. Momo has had tons of interactions with Kaido & literally none with Orochi and Kaido is the one that has been written to antagonize Momo over & over again. Hell he’s the reason why Momo is scared of heights. Moreover keep in mind that Orochi is down to his last head so if Momo cuts it, he’d have ultimately killed him which doesn’t really make sense as Momo is still a kid mentally.

2. There’s set-up for Kaido’s scar to be opened up. Kaido told the scabbards that their swordsmanship pales in comparison to Oden’s so they are not strong enough to even open up his scar’. Most predicted that Zoro would do it but he ultimately didn’t so only other person that fits the bill Momo. Also keep in mind that Momo is apparently the mirror image of Oden. Even if he wouldn’t ordinarily be able to match Kaido in a 1 v 1 coz of the difference in experience and skill, the shock Kaido will take from seeing Momo’s hybrid should give Momo an opportunity to close in on him land an attack and I think the key to Momo opening Kaido’a scar will be the Ame no Habakiri. We know Emma is special in that it can draw out it’s user’s Haki so there’s a strong possibility that Ame no Habakiri is special in some way as well. Keep in mind that it wasn’t only Emma that scarred Kaido. Also for reason Momo is scared of that sword so it probably has a special characteristic like Emma.

3. The current Momotaro set-up. Even though Luffy is ultimately the main in this fight & not Momonosuke, from a narrative point of view it’d be pretty damn awesome if Momonosuke plays a hand in Kaido’s defeat and dealing a fatal blow to Kaido will do just that.

 

[Seraphoenix]

But he didn't damage kaido the way Woro did, this is some irrefutable fact. :cheers:

You can't punch cuts. Luffy drew blood multiple times and knocked Kaido on his ass.

Zoro with his best attack couldn't even knock Kaido down. He even cries about it to Kaido Then 10 seconds later Luffy knocks Kaido down:cheers:

 

[stairs-kun]

No, I agree they make mistakes, but I did not say they're wrong all the time.

Well they are sometimes. And like I said before Vivre card translations by Ohara can't be trusted. Zoro is never called the second strongest in any vivre card or databook.

And if he were, best believe it was a mistake.

Enma didn't give or amplify any of Zoro's feats on the roof besides maybe Hiryu Kaen.

 

[Black]

Manga says Hakai was one second.

*Zoro fans: you are wrong

Except its not the entire manga chapter translation which says that. Its the english one. The other languages say different things. :cantseeme:

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

I can see the slander on the horizon but I’m finna go on a limb and call it 💪🏿😤
Momo is gonna open up Kaido’s scar


The argument most will make is that it makes zero sense from a PL perspective but tbh it also made zero sense for the scabbards or even the Supernova on the roof save Luffy to be able to hurt Kaido but from a narrative perspective it does which is what ended up happening 😅

So y’all prolly be better served thinking about this from a narrative perspective as opposed to a PL perspective.

Reasons why I think Momo opens up Kaido’s scar are:
1. Oda has made it a point to highlight Momonosuke practicing his swordsmanship several times since this saga began so he’d most likely be utilizing his swordsmanship at some point in this arc. One could argue that this will be utilized against Orochi which is a fair argument but from a narrative point of view, Kaido is also fair game and I’d argue that it makes a lot more sense for it to be Kaido than Orochi. Only reason why people discount Kaido is coz they think Momo is weak & Kaido is too strong so they match him up against the weakling Orochi. Momo has had tons of interactions with Kaido & literally none with Orochi and Kaido is the one that has been written to antagonize Momo over & over again. Hell he’s the reason why Momo is scared of heights. Moreover keep in mind that Orochi is down to his last head so if Momo cuts it, he’d have ultimately killed him which doesn’t really make sense as Momo is still a kid mentally.

2. There’s set-up for Kaido’s scar to be opened up. Kaido told the scabbards that their swordsmanship pales in comparison to Oden’s so they are not strong enough to even open up his scar’. Most predicted that Zoro would do it but he ultimately didn’t so only other person that fits the bill Momo. Also keep in mind that Momo is apparently the mirror image of Oden. Even if he wouldn’t ordinarily be able to match Kaido in a 1 v 1 coz of the difference in experience and skill, the shock Kaido will take from seeing Momo’s hybrid should give Momo an opportunity to close in on him land an attack and I think the key to Momo opening Kaido’a scar will be the Ame no Habakiri. We know Emma is special in that it can draw out it’s user’s Haki so there’s a strong possibility that Ame no Habakiri is special in some way as well. Keep in mind that it wasn’t only Emma that scarred Kaido. Also for reason Momo is scared of that sword so it probably has a special characteristic like Emma.

3. The current Momotaro set-up. Even though Luffy is ultimately the main in this fight & not Momonosuke, from a narrative point of view it’d be pretty fam. awesome if Momonosuke plays a hand in Kaido’s defeat and dealing a fatal blow to Kaido will do just that.

Huh Momo doesn’t even have his sword. The most Momo does is get a few hits in with his dragon powers.

 

[Pattoucco]

Look Like Momo will really do something agasint Kaido. You can't said in Kaido face you become the new shogun in wano and do nothing agasint him lmao

Momo Hype :cheers:

 

[T.D.A]

You can't punch cuts. Luffy drew blood multiple times and knocked Kaido on his ass.

Zoro with his best attack couldn't even knock Kaido down. He even cries about it to Kaido Then 10 seconds later Luffy knocks Kaido down:cheers:

And a punch combo isn't the same as a bladed strike....

 

[stairs-kun]

I can see the slander on the horizon but I’m finna go on a limb and call it 💪🏿😤
Momo is gonna open up Kaido’s scar


The argument most will make is that it makes zero sense from a PL perspective but tbh it also made zero sense for the scabbards or even the Supernova on the roof save Luffy to be able to hurt Kaido but from a narrative perspective it does which is what ended up happening 😅

So y’all prolly be better served thinking about this from a narrative perspective as opposed to a PL perspective.

Reasons why I think Momo opens up Kaido’s scar are:
1. Oda has made it a point to highlight Momonosuke practicing his swordsmanship several times since this saga began so he’d most likely be utilizing his swordsmanship at some point in this arc. One could argue that this will be utilized against Orochi which is a fair argument but from a narrative point of view, Kaido is also fair game and I’d argue that it makes a lot more sense for it to be Kaido than Orochi. Only reason why people discount Kaido is coz they think Momo is weak & Kaido is too strong so they match him up against the weakling Orochi. Momo has had tons of interactions with Kaido & literally none with Orochi and Kaido is the one that has been written to antagonize Momo over & over again. Hell he’s the reason why Momo is scared of heights. Moreover keep in mind that Orochi is down to his last head so if Momo cuts it, he’d have ultimately killed him which doesn’t really make sense as Momo is still a kid mentally.

2. There’s set-up for Kaido’s scar to be opened up. Kaido told the scabbards that their swordsmanship pales in comparison to Oden’s so they are not strong enough to even open up his scar’. Most predicted that Zoro would do it but he ultimately didn’t so only other person that fits the bill Momo. Also keep in mind that Momo is apparently the mirror image of Oden. Even if he wouldn’t ordinarily be able to match Kaido in a 1 v 1 coz of the difference in experience and skill, the shock Kaido will take from seeing Momo’s hybrid should give Momo an opportunity to close in on him land an attack and I think the key to Momo opening Kaido’a scar will be the Ame no Habakiri. We know Emma is special in that it can draw out it’s user’s Haki so there’s a strong possibility that Ame no Habakiri is special in some way as well. Keep in mind that it wasn’t only Emma that scarred Kaido. Also for reason Momo is scared of that sword so it probably has a special characteristic like Emma.

3. The current Momotaro set-up. Even though Luffy is ultimately the main in this fight & not Momonosuke, from a narrative point of view it’d be pretty damn awesome if Momonosuke plays a hand in Kaido’s defeat and dealing a fatal blow to Kaido will do just that.

Remember that Zoro trained Momo. So if Momo opens the scar it only further hypes Zoro.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

A VC saying Sabo was dead isn't wrong it's not a mistake they just didn't want to spoil people

It wasn't a mistake! Sabo was pronounced dead in the chapters the DB covered.

 

[Black]

You can't punch cuts. Luffy drew blood multiple times and knocked Kaido on his ass.

Zoro with his best attack couldn't even knock Kaido down. He even cries about it to Kaido Then 10 seconds later Luffy knocks Kaido down:cheers:

I am not reffering to cuts. He could've break kaidos internal bones or let him bleed internally with his advanced CoC. But he wasn't able to. He only made him spit a little bit of blood, but he was fine afterwards. So Luffys feats aren't much better than zoros.

 

[Seraphoenix]

Well they are sometimes. And like I said before Vivre card translations by Ohara can't be trusted. Zoro is never called the second strongest in any vivre card or databook.

And if he were, best believe it was a mistake.

Enma didn't give Zoro any amplify any of Zoro's feats on the roof beside Hiryu Kaen.

Then give the correct translation scrub. Stop avoiding me.

Except its not the entire manga chapter translation which says that. Its the english one. The other languages say different things. :cantseeme:

Stephen consults with Oda's team

 

[mly90]

Nope. Vivre card is clear that his condition did not affect his Ashura. Zoro even says it's his best attack :cheers:

What a way to twist it Vivre card only mentioned that Zoro unleashed Ashura with all his might this doesn't change he was in terrible condition when he did it

With all his might, he unleashes a dreadful nine-sword style strike! It was even able to carve a scar on the yonko Kaido!

 

[BangOO🍅]

My heart skipped a beat when Lance posted something in the summary thread

learn the pattern and became an intellectual about spoilers like me and @MonsterZoro