Future Events Yamato’s chances of joining dictated by her power level

[Gol D. Roger]

Zoro has better feats than Yamato, I'll explain why when the chapter drops.

For now, I'll just say this, Yamato joining the crew doesn't change the core dynamic of the crew that Oda spent years building.

Yamato is not Oden, nor is she joining the crew the same way that Oden did. If Yamato joins the SHs, she's going to be a permanent member much like any crew member while Oden was borrowed for a specific purpose. Also, Roger's crew doesn't have the M3 dynamic. Gabban may be the 3rd strongest Roger pirates, but they work differently from Luffy's crew. Rayleigh, for example, officially held the highest rank after Roger. Oda did not bother disturbing the dynamic with Roger and Rayleigh for Oden.

 

[matt245]

Zoro has better feats than Yamato, I'll explain why when the chapter drops.

For now, I'll just say this, Yamato joining the crew doesn't change the core dynamic of the crew that Oda spent years building.

@ me when you do that lol.

 

[stairs-kun]

I get why some are worried about Yamato joining, most of them are either Sanji fans or obsolete M3 lickers... Because Yamato has CoC and that she can hold off Kaido...

Thing is, it's just CoC... Only needed by those who have kingly ambitions or parallels... In an actual fight, Sanji don't really need that since he's only fighting YC2s... Yamato has it only because of her Oden parallel... That, aside of the fact that Yamato already said that she can't beat Kaido, nothing different with the rest of the SHs outside Luffy and Zoro...

Also, may I remind you guys that Oden joined both Whitebeard and Roger Pirates without powerscaling issues... That's when Oden can equal WB (for Whitebeard Pirates), and eventually when it'll take both Rayleigh and Gaban to beat Oden (for Roger Pirates)...

In the end, no matter what happens, Zoro will still be the one who'll fight YC1 and Sanji for YC2 and Yamato will be "disrespected" like Jinbe... Especially that Sanji always have the tendency to steal opponents from female SHs...

Old Rayleigh would beat Oden. Don't compare Oden to Prime Ray ever again.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

@ me when you do that lol.

I won't be writing a thesis on it lmao; I prefer saying things in brief.

 

[matt245]

I won't be writing a thesis on it lmao; I prefer saying things in brief.

I mean, you don't even need to make a thesis. Just by looking at Kaido making her return to base after a few spanks is enough.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Thats it, no powerlevel-oriented goal like Zoro.

Oden’s goal wasn’t power level oriented yet he got several times stronger as well

If Yamato ends this arc stronger than Zoro, and joins the crew, She will remain stronger than him because in the next arc she will fight the second strongest enemy while Zoro fights the third strongest and on and on it will go until EoS

 

[matt245]

Oden’s goal wasn’t power level oriented yet he got several times stronger as well

If Yamato ends this arc stronger than Zoro, and joins the crew, She will remain stronger than him because in the next arc she will fight the second strongest enemy while Zoro fights the third strongest and on and on it will go until EoS

Not happening.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Not happening.

What’s not happening?
1. Yamato joining
2. Yamato joining while she is the second strongest
3. Yamato being the second strongest on the crew and remaining so until EoS

 

[sneko]

zoro still clear of yamato

 

[matt245]

What’s not happening?
1. Yamato joining
2. Yamato joining while she is the second strongest
3. Yamato being the second strongest on the crew and remaining so until EoS

Number 2 and 3. Dunno about 1.

 

[uyuu]

Oden’s goal wasn’t power level oriented yet he got several times stronger as well

If Yamato ends this arc stronger than Zoro, and joins the crew, She will remain stronger than him because in the next arc she will fight the second strongest enemy while Zoro fights the third strongest and on and on it will go until EoS

Yea but the First Mate didnt change right? Rayleigh was still the First Mate.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Yea but the First Mate didnt change right? Rayleigh was still the First Mate.

That’s because Rayleigh remained stronger than Oden. The anime showed Oden stalemated with Gaban

There is NO PROOF as of now that Zoro is stronger than Yamato and if the arc ends like this, no one will believe it… Literally the enemy arc will start, we see the strongest guy appear, we see their right hand man and IMMEDIATELY people will say that’s who Yamato fights. Plain and simple… There is no way people will be fine with the Clear second strongest strawhat fighting like the 4th strongest enemy

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Number 2 and 3. Dunno about 1.

@matt245
Then what do you think should happen so that Zoro shows he is stronger than her? Because beating King at Extreme Diff ain’t shit compared to what Yamato is doing

 

[ConquistadoR]

That’s because Rayleigh remained stronger than Oden. The anime showed Oden stalemated with Gaban

There is NO PROOF as of now that Zoro is stronger than Yamato and if the arc ends like this, no one will believe it… Literally the enemy arc will start, we see the strongest guy appear, we see their right hand man and IMMEDIATELY people will say that’s who Yamato fights. Plain and simple… There is no way people will be fine with the Clear second strongest strawhat fighting like the 4th strongest enemy

The exact same argument was made for Franky in Water 7. Many people thought he's the third strongest instead of Sanji. But we all know what happened at Enies Lobby. Oda doesn't give a damn about powerscaling consistency if it's gonna affect the narrative.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

The exact same argument was made for Franky in Water 7. Many people thought he's the third strongest instead of Sanji. But we all know what happened at Enies Lobby. Oda doesn't give a damn about powerscaling consistency if it's gonna affect the narrative.

Okay. Ennies Lobby was the actual end of the arc though….. Right? If this Onigashima battle is the actual end of the arc, then we are done aren’t we

the arc will end with a whole other power hierarchy and there is NO reason it shouldn’t remain that way until EoS

 

[Rivaille]

The Fight between WB and Roger was approved by oda which does it make into cannon.

It was not approve by Oda, it is fake news.

OT: Yamato will most likely join. There is too much marketing focus on her.
And she will most likely end up behind Zoro and Sanji no matter what feat any of them have by the end of the arc. Oda has put too much emphasis on « The wings of the Pirate King » to disrupt it a few chapters later.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Okay. Ennies Lobby was the actual end of the arc though….. Right? If this Onigashima battle is the actual end of the arc, then we are done aren’t we

the arc will end with a whole other power hierarchy and there is NO reason it shouldn’t remain that way until EoS

Except there is.

> Oda clearly cares about the "Wings of the Pirate King" title enough to bring it back for 2 chapters in a row after stating it in a SBS. It clearly establishes that no matter who joins the crew, Sanji will be the #3 and Zoro will be the #2.
> We literally have an example with Jinbe lol. Jinbe seemed to be stronger than Zoro & Sanji at the end of WCI but ended up fighting Who's Who while Zoro and Sanji are fighting calamities. Why do you think Yamato gets treated differently once Wano ends?

Just wait for the next battle where each strawhat gets their own 1v1s lol. Zoro will fight the enemy #2 while Sanji will fight the enemy #3 while Yamato and Jinbe fight the #4 and #5.

 

[Rivaille]

the next narrative will be that King is Admiral level or almost a Yonkou or some shit like that

This was already done by notorious Sanji fans

 

[ShadyOjiro]

People thinking formula will change after 20+ years lmao

Even of she joins Zoro would still be 2nd.
Btw what better feats? Drops of blood ? Like Okiku piercing through Kaido hands LMFAO.

I like how ppl use Zoro after stopping HAKAI to compare to Yamato xddd

Like one who received the attack of two yonkos( an attack with a power that Kaido alone can't reach) vs one who was completely fresh.

 

[BleakAsh]

Thats if zoro and sanji don't mid-high diff their opponents..

Sanji has yet to go all put and zoro has an arsenal left to exert.

 

[uyuu]

That’s because Rayleigh remained stronger than Oden. The anime showed Oden stalemated with Gaban

There is NO PROOF as of now that Zoro is stronger than Yamato and if the arc ends like this, no one will believe it… Literally the enemy arc will start, we see the strongest guy appear, we see their right hand man and IMMEDIATELY people will say that’s who Yamato fights. Plain and simple… There is no way people will be fine with the Clear second strongest strawhat fighting like the 4th strongest enemy

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@matt245
Then what do you think should happen so that Zoro shows he is stronger than her? Because beating King at Extreme Diff ain’t shit compared to what Yamato is doing

Facts in manga > anime right? I don't think Rayleigh is stronger than Oden. WB saying Oden is incredible and Oden scarring Kaidou is superior than what Rayleigh does. Rayleigh didnt appear in Kaidou's recognition, Oden did. Many points favor Oden, even though Rayleigh is strong.