Questions & Mysteries Did Zoro use advanced Conquerors Haki against Kaido in Chapter 1010?

[HA001]

What you mean as "lasting" damage is the fact that the skin will have that scar forever and you are merging it with the "lasting damage" stuff like in my examples about Lucci or Zoro.
Two completely different things. The first one is irrelevant for the combat power since it doesn't affect the user display at all, the second is the one that matters.
Zoro for now is in the first case. That's nothing impressive since any Scabbard (or any character comparable in power) could make the same if they had CoC since all of them can wound Kaido. Togen Totsuka of them did more damage to Kaido than Zoro's Ashura by far, but they couldn't make him more ugly forever. That's the only difference.


Normal CoC without hitting = a "mental" attack
Normal CoC by hitting = a "physical" attack, Luffy vs Doffy, etc used this unconsciously.
What's so difficult to get lmao?

No it's not
There is either coc coating or there is normal fighting emitting base coc bursts

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

No it's not
There is either coc coating or there is normal fighting emitting base coc bursts

No, there is a third.
There's no need for the second in the Doffy vs Luffy situation. What's the point? There's no fodders there and we already knew at that point that Doffy had CoC.

 

[HA001]

No, there is a third.
There's no need for the second in the Doffy vs Luffy situation. What's the point? There's no fodders there and we already knew at that point that Doffy had CoC.

No there isn't
If you just needed base coc to hurt kaido luffy would have fucking done so
And not specifically needed coc coating.
To have a clash with luffy and have law see luffy has coc
The same law who has no idea what zoro did despite being there

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

No there isn't
If you just needed base coc to hurt kaido luffy would have fucking done so
And not specifically needed coc coating.
To have a clash with luffy and have law see luffy has coc
The same law who has no idea what zoro did despite being there

Luffy never exchanged blows with Kaido lmao, I already explained, Kaido was letting him use as a sandbag. In the three examples they clashed physically (at least Doffy and Chinjao, against Kata we had black lightning in their hits sometimes and sometimes no after the scene with the CoC blast, and even before actually) and released unconsciously the Conqueror, for some reason, which was never explained.

 

[Seth]

He needed to do so. It is pretty much clear that you can't do shit like a lasting scar on Kaido's body without advCoC.

Zoro's confusion came from a lack of knowledge about CoC coating. Zoro knows what CoC is and I believe he knows he has it himself. He was surprised when Kaido asked about CoC because Zoro still probably thinks of it as knocking a massive army of fodders or shit.

 

[Kyou]

No it looked like it touched where advanced coc looks like it has a barrier

 

[BornInAbyss]

No it looked like it touched where advanced coc looks like it has a barrier

Advanced CoC can very well touch too. Look at the newest chapters with yamato and luffy. They both used advanced CoC and still touched him. I think this no touching thing only happens in a clash. Or there are two or more types of advanced CoC. Since Big Mom used it also but it wasn't a clash against Page One.

 

[Kyou]

Advanced CoC can very well touch too. Look at the newest chapters with yamato and luffy. They both used advanced CoC and still touched him. I think this no touching thing only happens in a clash.

To me it looked like regular coc yes both Luffy and Yamato

 

[BornInAbyss]

To me it looked like regular coc yes both Luffy and Yamato

Trust me, it was advanced CoC, they wouldn't just use basic CoC that doesn't amplify the damage output or penetrate against Kaido.

 

[Red Admiral]

as MUCH as I like Ashura being CoC

I'm getting less sure ... but if it's CoC it's the weakest performance of strongest type of Haki/Power in the verse

 

[BornInAbyss]

The way I see advanced coc is like advanced coa no touch like a barrier

Yeah but it still can touch people. I believe that there are versions of it, last chapter is proving it.

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as MUCH as I like Ashura being CoC

I'm getting less sure ... but if it's CoC it's the weakest performance of strongest type of Haki/Power in the verse

Why do you think its the weakest performance? It gave Kaido a second scar, only Oden was able to do that out of all Yonkous.

 

[Vongola Primo]

Vivre Card confirmed Zoro does not have CoC

Stop with headcannon.

 

[BornInAbyss]

Vivre Card confirmed Zoro does not have CoC

Stop with headcannon.

It didn't confirm anything lol. Just because it didn't mention him having CoC doesn't mean he doesn't posses it. Yamatos VC also didn't mentioned her having CoC, does that mean the manga is just a prank?

 

[Finalbeta]

Vivre Card confirmed Zoro does not have CoC

Stop with headcannon.

It does not, where did you derive that from? Are you messing around? :cheers:

 

[BornInAbyss]

It does not, where did you derive that from? Are you messing around? :cheers:

This dude is coping hard.

 

[Zenos7]

We all know that oda approves everything what Toei does.

no, fuck toei.

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Ndule is just that stubborn all the time.

and retarded

 

[Hiragaro]

Where the Black Lightning tho?

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We all know that oda approves everything what Toei does.

No he doesn't lol

Not saying Zoro doesn't have CoC.

 

[nik87]

I hope he didnt, it only makes the feat that much more impressive to do such to Kaido without CoC.
He will inevitably use it at some point either way, no need to be thirsty for it since it changes nothing.

 

[BornInAbyss]

Where the Black Lightning tho?

There are some instances where advanced CoC was used without black ligthning. Like the attack from Oden called paradise shirataki. It was later on confirmed by oda when an child asked him if he would get stronger if he used these kinds of attacks in the sbs. The same thing could have happened with zoros ashura.

 

[Z-Saber]

There are some instances where advanced CoC was used without black ligthning. Like the attack from Oden called paradise shirataki. It was later on confirmed by oda when an child asked him if he would get stronger if he used these kinds of attacks in the sbs. The same thing could have happened with zoros ashura.

In short, Oda is inconsistent with haki yet again, artistically.