Is Sanji's Power Up Legitimate?


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Definitive under King and Queen, for Jack im not sure since his battle was shown in offscreen, can see Doffy=>Jack but not stronger then King and Queen.
I'd personally say that Doffy is definitely relative to King or Queen. I think I'm more impressed with Doffy than Queen(due to Doffy's awakening), but I think we do need to see a little more from Queen(he has shown himself to be really capable, just think we need a little more).

I expect that Queen will definitely have something to help him turn the tables against Sanji after this moment, even when Sanji comes out on top in the end.
 
I think I want some elaboration about Sanji's power up considering Sanji's family is a contentious issue.

Zoro and Luffy did do work to get their power ups.

I'm not necessarily opposed to this powerup, would just like to see it elaborated upon more.
Sanji did work as well. If he didnt do all this fighting in the raid and broke his bones and shit. He wouldnt have unlocked it.
 
Dude power ups are power ups youre over complicating things. Enma is apart of Zoro’s base form now so we can’t really call it a power up anymore cause it’s his base form but for you I’ll call it a power up. DJ however isnt a part of Sanji’s base form he uses it as a power up to make him stronger.

Also calm down dude it’s just a discussion, you’re taking it way too seriously :gonope:
Zoro got Enma this arc as one of his 4 or so power ups this arc.
Sanji's only arc power up was raid suit until this point and he didn't use it against Queen.
 
If you think Sanji now easily dominating Queen, you are wrong.
It was clear that Queen played again around and try to force Sanji to use the raidsuit, he was fooling around, we literally even had a gagscene, he didn´t finish Sanji when he had him struggle in snakeform. He wait and try to force him to use the RS.
I think he want to fight with his tech vs Judge tech.
Perhaps we finally see his plague and if Oda plan awakening, we could even see a new form which Queen foreshadowed when we see him in the firsttime:

Muscle awakenend zoan version, would like it a lot.
He even decided to go hybrid after hearing Sanji talk about MADS
 
it didn't say they used it, it said they can use it
So Queen used no haki to go through big mom's defense while headbutting her ? He is Insane ! King using no Haki to counter and send flying zoro who used ultra tiger hunt ?
You really think these monster are in the level where they need to precise when they used haki like that random from dressrosa ? they probably are constantly using it...
 
Sanji did work as well. If he didnt do all this fighting in the raid and broke his bones and shit. He wouldnt have unlocked it.
Yeah, that makes sense, but I feel like it was something he gained more passively than the others, who consciously gained their power ups.
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He’s slightly weaker by more clear evidence
The bounty gap doesn’t exceed 100 mil
The Marco wank was directed to both of them on majority of time.
Yc1 and Yc2
Both were taken on by Zoro and Sanji at the same freaking chapter
Right wing and left wing at same chapter


you can keep denying it, but it’s a fact… he’s only slightly weaker than King… nothing more… nothing you can say will change that.
Yeah, King is stronger, but I wouldn't think by a terrible amount.
 
He’s slightly weaker by more clear evidence
The bounty gap doesn’t exceed 100 mil
The Marco wank was directed to both of them on majority of time.
Yc1 and Yc2
Both were taken on by Zoro and Sanji at the same freaking chapter
Right wing and left wing at same chapter


you can keep denying it, but it’s a fact… he’s only slightly weaker than King… nothing more… nothing you can say will change that.
The fact that one is fighting Zoro and the other is fighting Sanji shows there’s a big difference.

Bounty doesn’t = Strength as we can see with Usopp having a higher bounty than Franky.

YC2’s are used as hype tools in one piece where as YC1’s are literally the shining knights.
 

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So Queen used no haki to go through big mom's defense while headbutting her ? He is Insane ! King using no Haki to counter and send flying zoro who used ultra tiger hunt ?
You really think these monster are in the level where they need to precise when they used haki like that random from dressrosa ? they probably are constantly using it...
of course big mom wasn't using any haki either and when she uses no haki she can get hurt by just kneeling on the ground we saw that on WCI.
 
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