Who is Stronger?


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he was also strong enough to deflect shishi son son

so anything thaT gets deflected becomes lowend?
What does Kaku deflecting one of Zoro's attack has to do with a different attack from Zoro? Answer, nothing.

It's normal for characters to have different attacks that are on different levels.

Kaku has an attack able to cut the tower in half. Plus has an attack that creates small needles. Those two attacks are on two completely different levels and serve different purposes.
 
Because your point holds not merit. With his blades or without his blades he was still getting blitz the exact same way since his blade does not increase his movement speed or reaction speed lol

His fighting wasn't completely changed since killer himself never said so. He never stated his fighting still was completely changed since he was still using his speed to evade etc which is his fighting style. He wasn't mental hindered since the ajime neither the manga showed it. And he wasn't physically hindered (lack of speed). Which means he was still getting blitz the same way regardless. Even more so if zoro wasn't distracted by another person that was attacking him at the same time
So Denjiro>Nitoryuu Zoro thats what Manga panels showed.

C mon dude, is so simple, Killer was not fighting with his Sonic Weapon, him was nerfed mentioned in the manga, his fighting style is acrobatics with a light weapon, him was not even using his speeds liek he used against Kaidou or Traskins.

So,Killer was nerfed mentioned by him in the manga, thats the truest, and you can't go againts that
 
You blame people for not being able to read, and say completely dumb fucking shit. Hawkins' last card literally talked about the "old falling" and the "new rising". Killer beats him, and then it pans to BM vs. Kid/Law.

This entire arc is about the fall of the old Rox Captains (Kid/BM) and the rise of the Worst Gen Captains.

That don't fucking matter. It's going to take a lot more than Kid getting rid of a headache for him and Law to stand a chance of beating Big Mom, whom they can't even damage in the slightest at the moment.
 
he doesnt need to have 30000 people the whole fight
even outmanned he should be the favorite .

"WB and Roger fight many times and seem keep there main people around hell the one time we see them fight both sides made it out okay after 3 days"
want to talk about what happened to rocks and the crew as a consequence of one of such fights?
you do lose main people
not just the fodder. we saw what happened when wb waltzed into mf with support and major members suffered. the last fight with roger and wb was barely serious with both having a chuckle before it even started. it was hardly serious.

"Like do you think any of the big name character going to die on either other than maybe the scabbards"
at some point yes
sacrifices will be made .


if the strawhats are walking from every villain unscathed from the start to the end of the story and thats fine with you then there is really no point in continuing this further.
The same rock fight you talking about only the captain seem to get fuck up.
Since BM , WB , Kaido and whole bunch of other people get away from Roger and Garp .
Even if want to say that last roger and WB was not serious they still seem to have crew members they had when they were fighting many times before .
Sacrifices if they get made will be near the end if we talking death Oda not going kill off any SH before then make no sense.
 
So Denjiro>Nitoryuu Zoro thats what Manga panels showed.

C mon dude, is so simple, Killer was not fighting with his Sonic Weapon, him was nerfed mentioned in the manga, his fighting style is acrobatics with a light weapon, him was not even using his speeds liek he used against Kaidou or Traskins.

So,Killer was nerfed mentioned by him in the manga, thats the truest, and you can't go againts that
The manga showed us injured 2 sword Zoro = Denjiro. That's why his subordinates stated Zoro was keeping up with him.
 
That don't fucking matter. It's going to take a lot more than Kid getting rid of a headache for him and Law to stand a chance of beating Big Mom, whom they can't even damage in the slightest at the moment.
Like I've said a million times before, beating big mom isn't the same as beating kaido. All they realistically need to do is chuck big mom off onigashima, have her bump her head on a rock on the way down, and turn her back into O-lin. Big Mom's been screwed by similar scenarios multiple times in the past.

All Oda needs to do to create that scenario is give the two of them a power up and possibly a heal. This isn't out of the question given that momo will probably have his own hour of legends holding onigashima above the capital.
 
So Denjiro>Nitoryuu Zoro thats what Manga panels showed.

C mon dude, is so simple, Killer was not fighting with his Sonic Weapon, him was nerfed mentioned in the manga, his fighting style is acrobatics with a light weapon, him was not even using his speeds liek he used against Kaidou or Traskins.

So,Killer was nerfed mentioned by him in the manga, thats the truest, and you can't go againts that
That's not what the panels showed though and the example you used was poor since zoro was physcially fatigued. Killer was not physcially fatigued when he went into fight zoro as kamazo. Zoro didnt have his other blade, was starving, probably poisoned while being attacked by someone else and still had movement speed and reaction speed above killer. Does killers weapon increase his movement speed or reaction speed? No. So exactly what was killer going to do if he had his actual weapons that was stopping himself from getting blitzed by zoros onigiri?
 
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