Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1029 Spoilers Discussion

[Loki D. Terror]

Seriously retarded. Remember when she had a free punch at Kid on the rooftop?

Oda nerfing BM Luffy's adv coc punhces pushed kaido down ; BM's should be devastating

 

[Seraphoenix]

Oh, threatening to throw hands? Like how he tried to throw a hand to finish off Smoker from maybe a 2 feet away (and on top of Smoker)?

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And got frozen solid before he could even connect that attack?

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This is all, again, an Aokiji who doesn't move a muscle or remove his hands from his pockets. Hyper casual. If Doffy tries anything, he's frozen again before he can take two steps.
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At the beginning of Wano we also thought Hawkins was above Diamante to be fair.

Not moving a muscle and using his feet to freeze actually shows how serious he was. His whole body is made of ice noob. Not using hands doesn't mean hyper casual lmfao.

 

[Desolate Smaug]

Who would have thought the 3rd most wanted supernova at the beginning of the time skip would turn out to be the scum of the worst generation lol.
Bege who was like the lowest wanted looks like a fuckin god when compared to Hawkins

 

[BOCCHI]

Battle field removal

One side is gonna lose this fight it’s a matter of time. I would bet BM wins tho I could see Oda giving Kid and Law PUs to deal some serious damage before going down. Unless these PUs are OP which shouldn’t be surprising since both Law and Kid have DFs with insane potential.
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Against kidd and law?

Yes, unless you think BM went like “there are fodders fighting in the same floor far away from me! How dare they!” And used CoC to knock them out lol. It’s only logical she used it in her fight against them.

 

[Seraphoenix]

A question for sky splitters
What's more impressive? Splitting Sky or Splitting Yonko?

Zoro Akainu and Oden split Yonko
Shanks Big Mom and Luffy split Sky

Funny how sky splitter Big Mom can't even make it to Kaido's "Does your ceiling go as high as them" list.

Sky splitting is the marker of the best of the best.

Also don't lump trash like Akainu splitting a deathbed Yonko with two people giving permanent scars to someone who is likely the most durable character ever.

 

[Finalbeta]

Agreed. Luffy is much stronger.

Can you make a case? 🤔

 

[Loki D. Terror]

One side is gonna lose this fight it’s a matter of time. I would bet BM wins tho I could see Oda giving Kid and Law PUs to deal some serious damage before going down. Unless these PUs are OP which shouldn’t be surprising since both Law and Kid have DFs with insane potential.

--Oda needed -- Scabbards to weaken kaido + PIS as in Kaido using dragon form + SN's attacks + Plus Yamato who herself has Adv coc + Mythical zoan with good defense and ice abilites + Giving luffy two power ups + Having kaido carry an island which takes away his stamina to defeat kaido

--Now BM is portrayed as peer of kaido and she barely taken any attacks on roof top so I am not sure even with powerups (as in adv coc for kidd) how they will/can defeat BM

--This simply means BM is significantly weaker than Kaido which I doubt will be the case

 

[Peroroncino]

And again the main reason he was able to hurt kaido was because he has a technique thats actually able to hurt kaido while kid doesn't. Without a specific technique or ability you can't hurt kaido doesn't really matter how strong the attack
The same way a kkg before luffy trained his armament would do less damage than a cut from raizo on kaido. Doesn't mean raizo had higher ap or was stronger than luffy

Zoro was saved by law so he didn't have to take the full on attack and still almost killed by it needing immediate doctoring after powering through the pain for a few minutes

what kinda logic is this? if he has one it's because he's strong to have it

 

[Pantheos]

--Oda needed -- Scabbards to weaken kaido + PIS as in Kaido using dragon form + SN's attacks + Plus Yamato who herself has Adv coc + Mythical zoan with good defense and ice abilites + Giving luffy two power ups + Having kaido carry an island which takes away his stamina to defeat kaido

--Now BM is portrayed as peer of kaido and she barely taken any attacks on roof top so I am not sure even with powerups (as in adv coc for kidd) will defeat BM

--This simply means BM is significantly weaker than Kaido which I doubt will be the case

or… kid freed from his chains is significantly stronger then Beginn of Rooftop Luffy. Praise the captain!

 

[Loki D. Terror]

or… kid freed from his chains is significantly stronger then Beginn of Rooftop Luffy. Praise the captain!

Nah its not only luffy but all the scabbards + SN's attacks + Yamato with adv coc and mythical DF + Current luffy + Kaido carrying an island which consumes his stamina

 

[Albino 👑]

what kinda logic is this? if he has one it's because he's strong to have it

killer, sai, jinbe, and kiku all have abilities/techniques that ignore durability that are all likely able hurt kaido
That still doesn't make them stronger than luffy and zoro before they trained

 

[Loki D. Terror]

And @Pantheos Kidd was in Awe when seeing luffy's G4 Gattling with Adv coa attack

 

[Ricassian]

@Pantheos just wanted to tell you that I went to your TYR theory for a reread and oh boi
This arm mutilation pattern revolving around Kidd Pirates can't be just a coincidence
Killer taking Kidd's left arm once
Killer taking Hawkins left arm this time
Same action, but two completely different reasons behind it
NGL the recent events really push your theory

 

[Shiroyru]

Stronger? Yes. Much Stronger? depends what you consider much stronger. Law hasn't had any significant power growth after the Doffy fight. He was YC level then and he still is now.

Law wasn’t even Cracker level at DR

 

[Peroroncino]

killer, sai, jinbe, and kiku all have abilities/techniques that ignore durability that are all likely able hurt kaido
That still doesn't make them stronger than luffy and zoro before they trained

and asura was never stated to ignore durability at any point in the manga, that's your headcanon you made that up

 

[BOCCHI]

--Oda needed -- Scabbards to weaken kaido + PIS as in Kaido using dragon form + SN's attacks + Plus Yamato who herself has Adv coc + Mythical zoan with good defense and ice abilites + Giving luffy two power ups + Having kaido carry an island which takes away his stamina to defeat kaido

--Now BM is portrayed as peer of kaido and she barely taken any attacks on roof top so I am not sure even with powerups (as in adv coc for kidd) how they will/can defeat BM

--This simply means BM is significantly weaker than Kaido which I doubt will be the case

I doubt it as well, but I won’t be surprised if the plot demands it. The only chance for them to weaken BM so much is if we see some insane next level DF abilities from both Law and Kid to sense if they win…

 

[Pantheos]

Nah its not only luffy but all the scabbards + SN's attacks + Yamato with adv coc and mythical DF + Current luffy + Kaido carrying an island which consumes his stamina

yeah but Kaido got this significant nerfes, so much of them, and still a big mum en par with him will be beaten by Kid.

so if
Kaido = Linlin
Kaido - Massive Nerf =< Luffy
Linlin >= Kid - Hard Nerf

then Kid > Linlin = Kaido > Luffy

we don’t know how long Hawkins had these dolls of kid and it obviously seems like they bring up permanent pressure on him. So how long has this man been nerfed and still went for the Yonkos head?
Kinda Rock Lee fallen weights situation.

 

[Loki D. Terror]

I doubt it as well, but I won’t be surprised if the plot demands it. The only chance for them to weaken BM so much is if we see some insane next level DF abilities from both Law and Kid to sense if they win…

Even then there is a limit -- Luffy will always be more powerful and he is in better shape than kidd who has eaten meat and at least it will be extreme diff fight against kaido. And again BM is in much better shape than kaido too

That is why I said BFR

 

[Pantheos]

@Pantheos just wanted to tell you that I went to your TYR theory for a reread and oh boi
This arm mutilation pattern revolving around Kidd Pirates can't be just a coincidence
Killer taking Kidd's left arm once
Killer taking Hawkins left arm this time
Same action, but two completely different reasons behind it
NGL the recent events really push your theory

It just fits so damn well. I hope so hard this becomes true!

 

[T.D.A]

It's interesting we never actually saw on panel Sanji putting on the RS the 2nd time around

Sanji: Remember Sanji! What did you do for this to happen!?