Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1029 Spoilers Discussion

[Pantheos]

Shanks is Tyr

Shanks is Thor. Odin is Roger. Loki is Buggy. Read my theory mate.

 

[Shiroyru]

Would Cracker not have beaten Luffy without Nami’s help?

 

[Patryipe]

Would Cracker not have beaten Luffy without Nami’s help?

Law would Law low diff Cracker, a shitbag tailor made for ineffective brawlers like Luffy.

Post automatically merged: Oct 21, 2021

why he quit

Realized Lopper was shit LMFAO

 

[Peroroncino]

PeperLevi is officially gone.

He'll be missed, a great Chopper fan and, most importantly, a big Sanji and Carrot basher.

Goodbye legend, hope you'll come back.

 

[HA001]

Zoro and Sanji will become stronger than everyone except Luffy eventually, maybe by the time this arc ends. But so far, that's not the case.


Sanji had so far been nerfed post timeskip. Only now Oda has started giving him some serious powerups. And Zoro has only fought fodders post timeskip (yeah, Monet and Pika are fodders in the bigger scheme of things). Despite all the fan boys hyping him up, he got wrecked on rooftop and is only alive because of plot armor and senzu bean.

Kid has taken several high power attacks from both Kaido and Big Mom, been beaten up but never needed a senzu bean.

Law's devil fruit is broken and for Zoro to go above him, he will have to develop his conqueror's even more. He has only just realised he even may have conqueror's, forget about learning to properly use it. Though he will learn it pretty fast now, because of the plot. But it hasnt happened so far.


Anyone who disagrees, here have a senzu bean 🌰 that looks like shit because i cant find the right emoji.

Zoro doesn't need to show shit to be above law his feats shit on laws
Laws getting his ass kicked by a homie

 

[rerere]

That is wrong assumption first

And no let me explain for last time -- This is for you too kidd fans

All the attacks kaido took so Far --

-Get cut by Kiku in the hand
-Get pierced together by Ashura,Kinemon,Denjiro in the stomach(Attack Sunachii)
-Crush with full force into the ground
-Get cut in mouth by Kinemon Foxfire Style Flamerend
-Take a attack from Nekomamushi´s Crimson Cat Dance
-Get cut by Kawamatsu´s River of sea
-Get pierced by Inuarashi´s Canine Scourge
-Get cut by Okiku´s Fallen Snow Scythes
-Get cut by Izo´s Slicing rounds
-Take his own boro breath by Raizo counter attack:Scrolling Jutsu Restoration
-Get cut by a combinate attack Paradise Totsuka(Group attack of Kinemon,Denjiro,Ashura and Inuarashi)
-Get pierced by Denjiro in the left body side
-Get punched by Luffy G3 Red Roc(Adv penetration haki)
- Take damage by Zoro´s Purgatory Onigiri
- Take damage by Killer´s Beheading Claws
- Get punched by Luffy G4 Kong gun
- Get squash by Kidßs Punk Vise
- Get attacked by Law Takt via throwing sharp stones at him
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Rifle
- Get hit by Kid Gibson slam
- Take Law´s Gammaknife who was pointed against his heart
- Tank Killer´s Sonic Scythe(internal damage)
- Get kicked by Luffy rio schneider
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Gatling
- Get cut by Zoro Tatsumaki
- Infection shoot by Law
-Get a hit by Law infection shoot
-Get cut by Zoro adv CoC Ashura
-Get punched by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA in stomach
-Get punched uppercut by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA
-Tank Yamato adv CoC Thunder bague
-Tank Yamato Himoro Giri
-Get cut by Yamato slice attack
-Get punched by Luffy Snakeman adv CoC Jet Culverin
-In combo he also tank Yamato adv CoC White Snake Rush who attack in a combo with Luffy.
-Luffy's G3 Attack
-Base luffy's adv coc punch

So far Kaido tank over 37 Attacks(take in mind Sunachii was a combo attack by all Scabbards, same as a Kong Gatling who hit him multiple times)+(Lot of adv CoC attacks).

--Now after taking all the above attacks and lot of them are adv coc attacks mind you current luffy will defeat kaido who will get his own powerup in g5 likely

--Only attack BM took on rooftop was Gamma knife which is inferior to Injection shot

--Lets say current luffy = Current kidd with powerup ( Which can easily be massively wrong but still)

--You are saying law alone can deal equivalent amount damage as all the attacks kaido took above minus current luffy?? And this isn't fresh law also + Kaido carrying an island

@Pantheos @rerere

You're omitting the fact that the major issue of Kaido is the regen
By the time the Rooftop 5 reached the rooftop, Kaido was back to 100%
Just considering that the amount of effective hits decreases from 37 to 25...

On the other hand Linlin, while being naturally monstrously tough, has no regen to back her up
Which means that if the Rooftop + the Kidd/Law fight brought her to 80%, she ain't going back to 100%

 

[Black_Leg_Wanji]

keep in mind zoro still bodies your fav :cheers:

 

[Shiroyru]

Law would Law low diff Cracker, a shitbag tailor made for ineffective brawlers like Luffy.

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Realized Lopper was shit LMFAO

Cope. Cracker’s Haki would have been too strong for Law.

Law was YC4 level back in Dressrosa.
Law is YC1 level now.
I don’t get why it’s so hard for people to accept this

 

[Sungodo]

Zoro doesn't need to show shit to be above law his feats shit on laws
Laws getting his ass kicked by a homie

Here take a senzu bean 🌰

 

[Gon’s Missing Arm]

Law would Law low diff Cracker, a shitbag tailor made for ineffective brawlers like Luffy.

Post automatically merged: Oct 21, 2021

Realized Lopper was shit LMFAO

Such a cool sig! Bring on King vs Zoro already:cheers:

 

[HA001]

Here take a senzu bean 🌰

Without a senzu bean law was in awe of zoro moving with a broken body.
Zoro scarred kaido
Laws getting negged by fucking prometheus
Here go to school and learn to read.

 

[MonsterKaido]

You're omitting the fact that the major issue of Kaido is the regen
By the time the Rooftop 5 reached the rooftop, Kaido was back to 100%
Just considering that the amount of effective hits decreases from 37 to 25...

On the other hand Linlin, while being naturally monstrously tough, has no regen to back her up
Which means that if the Rooftop + the Kidd/Law fight brought her to 80%, she ain't going back to 100%

I agree but BM should have something which makes her close to kaido right? I am not saying anything about BM's defeat but if she gets defeated then Kaido is significantly stronger than her because of regen and how many attacks it is required to put him down in compariosn to BM

 

[The White Crane]

Nah its not only luffy but all the scabbards + SN's attacks + Yamato with adv coc and mythical DF + Current luffy + Kaido carrying an island which consumes his stamina

I think BFR-ing Big Mom to the seas one more time is still a possibility.

Or it will be something as direct as Law eventually pushing out Big Mom's heart for Kidd to smash it to pieces right after.

 

[Sungodo]

Without a senzu bean law was in awe of zoro moving with a broken body.
Zoro scarred kaido
Laws getting negged by fucking prometheus
Here go to school and learn to read.

Law is still standing unlike Zoro. Who had to be wrapped up in a body bag made of wood and bandages to look like a cross and was saved twice by Law. Once from Hakai and immediately after carrying his near dead body. Again have another senzu bean 🌰

 

[yorosenpai]

Haters: „No, kid can’t hurt big mum, he haven’t shown ad coa, he can’t hurt her, mimi!“

meanwhile Kid, finally freed from his chains:

Maybe, but I dont trust 1 single panel of kid, cuz this is what happen to kid after this: cocky kid good at talking nothing less right

This is Kid right after:
Kid has no idea what is the ad use of coa hacky (he also has no idea what is the ad coc use)

Next is this when luffy is pounching Kaido (this is the so call Luffy rival ):

Next this is Kid again, Kaido tornado are enough to stop him (zoro counter this shit):

Then he create the box to capture that cloud, and leave for Big Mom.

This is the guy that said that he want to take down Kaido. Think about it.....

 

[Cozy Sofa]

1. Luffy (Roger) 100
2. Kid (WB) 98
3. Zoro (Rayleigh) 95
4. Law (Shiki) 94
5. Yamato (Young Kaido) 91
6. Killer (Oden) 90
7. Sanji (Gaban) 89

S-tier
Luffy, Kidd
A-tier
Zoro, Law
B-tier
Yamato, Killer, Sanji

- We know WB ≈ Roger (but Oden rated Roger even above WB, just like Luffy ≈> Kidd)
- We can assume Rayleigh was the WSS (coat similar to Mihawk) and Shiki was top tier swordsman + hax DF (like Law)
- Yamato is Kaidos son/daughter with same techniques (thunder bagua, CoC) and mythical DF
- Killer is Kidds partner just like Oden was WB little brother (only one that wasn't a son) and both are top tier swordsmen
- Sanji is #3 like Gaban. As we saw in the anime Gaban is roughly equal to Oden, probably just behind. That's how I see Killer ≈> Sanji as well. And we already know Zoro > Killer.

 

[Mlzz]

That is wrong assumption first

And no let me explain for last time -- This is for you too kidd fans

All the attacks kaido took so Far --

-Get cut by Kiku in the hand
-Get pierced together by Ashura,Kinemon,Denjiro in the stomach(Attack Sunachii)
-Crush with full force into the ground
-Get cut in mouth by Kinemon Foxfire Style Flamerend
-Take a attack from Nekomamushi´s Crimson Cat Dance
-Get cut by Kawamatsu´s River of sea
-Get pierced by Inuarashi´s Canine Scourge
-Get cut by Okiku´s Fallen Snow Scythes
-Get cut by Izo´s Slicing rounds
-Take his own boro breath by Raizo counter attack:Scrolling Jutsu Restoration
-Get cut by a combinate attack Paradise Totsuka(Group attack of Kinemon,Denjiro,Ashura and Inuarashi)
-Get pierced by Denjiro in the left body side
-Get punched by Luffy G3 Red Roc(Adv penetration haki)
- Take damage by Zoro´s Purgatory Onigiri
- Take damage by Killer´s Beheading Claws
- Get punched by Luffy G4 Kong gun
- Get squash by Kidßs Punk Vise
- Get attacked by Law Takt via throwing sharp stones at him
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Rifle
- Get hit by Kid Gibson slam
- Take Law´s Gammaknife who was pointed against his heart
- Tank Killer´s Sonic Scythe(internal damage)
- Get kicked by Luffy rio schneider
- Get punched by Luffy Kong Gatling
- Get cut by Zoro Tatsumaki
- Infection shoot by Law
-Get a hit by Law infection shoot
-Get cut by Zoro adv CoC Ashura
-Get punched by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA in stomach
-Get punched uppercut by Luffy adv CoC+adv CoA
-Tank Yamato adv CoC Thunder bague
-Tank Yamato Himoro Giri
-Get cut by Yamato slice attack
-Get punched by Luffy Snakeman adv CoC Jet Culverin
-In combo he also tank Yamato adv CoC White Snake Rush who attack in a combo with Luffy.
-Luffy's G3 Attack
-Base luffy's adv coc punch

So far Kaido tank over 37 Attacks(take in mind Sunachii was a combo attack by all Scabbards, same as a Kong Gatling who hit him multiple times)+(Lot of adv CoC attacks).

--Now after taking all the above attacks and lot of them are adv coc attacks mind you current luffy will defeat kaido who will get his own powerup in g5 likely

--Only attack BM took on rooftop was Gamma knife which is inferior to Injection shot

--Lets say current luffy = Current kidd with powerup ( Which can easily be massively wrong but still)

--You are saying law alone can deal equivalent amount damage as all the attacks kaido took above minus current luffy?? And this isn't fresh law also + Kaido carrying an island

@Pantheos @rerere

one piece is a shonen no matter how many times you get hit the full power is shown at the end of the fight so the final 1vs1 against luffy

 

[HA001]

Law is still standing unlike Zoro. Who had to be wrapped up in a body bag made of wood and bandages to look like a cross and was saved twice by Law. Once from Hakai and immediately after carrying his near dead body. Again have another senzu bean 🌰

One hakai and law would be dead.
Zoro unsheathed 3 swords and blocked hakai faster than Law could move 2 fingers and say room. Laws getting his ass kicked by a homie Brook and kinemon can beat
Cry more

 

[Seraphoenix]

Shanks is Thor. Odin is Roger. Loki is Buggy. Read my theory mate.

Link ? Or is it easily findable in the theory section?

 

[DonWick]

Queen and King are portrayed as near equals. Both have ancient zoans with very different basic qualities.
King's advantages lay in speed, mobility and sharp attacks from wings/beak. Queen's advantages are his giant frame giving him enhanced durability and strength (can crush people on his level without any resistance with his serpent form if he catches them).
This should be clear and if you think otherwise the burden of proof really would be on you to convince me.

Zoro's issue isn't really "cutting" King, but dealing with his mobility and versatility to get an opportunity to cut him, Oda has set up these matches to be mismatched intentionally. Sanji would find King easier to deal with on those fronts while Zoro would find Queen easier to deal with. I really don't think Killer would be able to do serious damage to Queen significantly easier than pre-upgrade Sanji.

It's debatable because he shrugged it off instantly and would have killed Killer if not for Luffy's intervention with Rhino Schneider.

Hell's memories would do the same as Kama Sonic, and the same as Law/Kidds moves, look flashy, maybe make Kaido scream out in pain, but have no real effect on him.

Killer can't fly, he can't go invisible, Sanji was arguably his level pre upgrade and now he hasn't got impenetrable skin, regeneration and boosted base strength.

Proof is that Kings vivre card lists him as the strongest after Kaido.

You are right about Kings advantages but King is also granted durability due to being an ancient Zoan just like Queen. There is absolutely no proof that Queen is more durable than King. I would also argue that King is physically stronger than Queen because everyone he attacks ends up going through structures. Queens needs the tech he has because his fruit doesn’t grant him much.

You don’t think Killer can damage Queen after the story told us he damaged Kaido? It doesn’t matter if you want to believe it or not it happened. How much damage he did is debatable but whatever he did to Kaido will hurt Queen a ton more.

That entire Hells memory is just speculation. Just like you can’t say how strong it is I can’t say how weak it is. So until it does something that warrants it being compared to Kama Sonic it’s weaker than Kama Sonic and that’s just a fact.

Sanji was only arguably Killers level when we had no feats for Killer now that Killer has feats Killer > Sanji. Killer fought Zoro, Kaido & Big Mom. Sanji hasn’t fought anyone of Zoro level (Zoro is the weakest in that group by far who is stronger than Queen who Sanji is struggling with) in order to be compared to Killer. He also doesn’t have the portrayal of being stronger than Killer. It’s a reason Killer was a Supernova and Sanji wasn’t.

So your argument is pure I like Sanji so he’s stronger with zero evidence to back it.