Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1030 Spoilers Discussion

[Jokerr]

Curious to see the full summary! I inow that’s definitely going to give us more insight

 

[Halyup]

Yes. Thats exactly it.
Luffys snakeman acoc moves combod with yamato got no sold by a beat up base kaido even now luffy still hits like a bitch.

Blunt dmg are just scratches to Kaido
Even tho Kaido's AP aint that good either
Cant even kill 1hp kinemon

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Bro those attacks can't be working if he is fighting literally just as fine and gmhasnt had rest.

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Did he hyped or give reference to this other hits though? Besides luffys red rock the only other hit he emphasized as doing something is zoros ashura

He doesn't need to acknowledge every damn attack he receives.

Whitebeard didn't acknowledge half his head being blown off. Must not have been that damaging to him!

 

[HA001]

> Gamma knife can one shot YC lvl characters
> Awakening is supposed to awaken you to a new level of power

But internal organs damage is supposed to mean nothing

Gamma knife didn't even one shot the guy it was supposed to kill lmfao

 

[Halyup]

Kaido screamed in pain from rocks it still did no damage.

Kaido screams all the time whether it did dmg or not
But kaido only huffs and puffs while trembling with Asura

 

[Diable SonSon]

You're capping hard
(Aaaaand my image doesn't show up again)

 

[Bogard]

Gamma knife didn't even one shot the guy it was supposed to kill lmfao

Because he used his ability to stich his organs. He'd have died otherwise

 

[rerere]

Drake has been fighting a fucked up Apoo(by Zoro's shishin sonson + his own sneak attack in zoan form) for 30 chapter+, and now he agrees to an alliance

Meanwhile,

> Killer can tank Big Mom's indra and fulgora, injure Kaido more than than Law's dressrosa ultimate attack, and even his weakened version(after fighting 2 yonko on the rooftop) came down to clean house with Hawkins's max doll supply very quickly until using Kid as an hostage, and even after sacrificing himself to avoid Kid getting injured, he fucked him up the moment he found the solution to hurt him without getting injured

> Law's Wano power up allows him to fuck up BM from inside out, and that after the rooftop fight against 2 yonko
> Zoro can temporarily block hakai, with his asura(enhanced with adcoc) capable to scar Kaido
> Kid's awakening can turn Big Mom into an attracting magnet, turning her into a bully
> Luffy can do skysplitting with Kaido and contest him in a 1 on 1


Further proof that the rooftop 5 are built different :zorothink:

I'm down for Drake ngl
High expectation from him, so this "alliance" better lead to something epic

 

[Gon’s Missing Arm]

Kaido screamed in pain from rocks it still did no damage.

he screamed from momo bite too I think

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Only moves that fluster Kaido are ADcoC coated Luffy and Asura Zoro

Basically

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He doesn't need to acknowledge every damn attack he receives.

Whitebeard didn't acknowledge half his head being blown off. Must not have been that damaging to him!

The problem is that kaido does especially if he deems the attack strong lol

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

here comes the hyperbole, I never said that, but do consider that, Queen said he didn't feel jack shit from Sanji even though he make Queen bleed, there are levels to it, Zoro's attack was a significant one, that left a permanent damage, it had ramifications which you tried to downplay.

I'm not saying the attack didn't do anything to Kaido, as obviously it did. But it doesn't need to be explained that external damage is no comparable to internal damage. Getting your side split open, is not comparable to having small explosions applied directly to your brain, lungs, kidney's, stomach, intestines etc....

 

[HA001]

Because he used his ability to stich his organs. He'd have died otherwise

Yet he was still up after it. Law needed another move to put him down.
And yeah fodder bullets through marcos heads would kill him if not for marcos ability or luffys ability etc

 

[WesMidnight]

Show me a panel of internal destruction haki turning Kaido’s organs to shredded pieces, I’m here all week.

Have you reread the chapter where Hyogoro explains the difference between barrier and internal destruction>? If not don't read the rest of this post, go and reread that chapter.

Luffy wanted to learn Hyogoro's BARRIER haki, to overcome Kaido's scale defense, barrier haki is what is needed to overcome the scale defense with your attacks.
BARRIER haki is what the scabbards+ zoro (when unleashing Enma) are using with their ryuo on their swords to be able to cut Kaido.
Similarly BARRIER haki allows punches themselves to do damage to Kaido, internal destruction channels the haki in further into his body and acts as additional damage on top of the blunt damage that has been allowed to get past scale defense.

Now Kaido has extreme durability, damage soak and regenerative properties, but even someone like Marco with regeneration as his primary feature is limited by stamina in it's usage, so it stands to reason that the shredding of Kaido's organs will take up considerable amounts of stamina to offset.

 

[Lunaria]

Cap though. No reason why Kaku can't be on sanjis level if not above when pretineskip he was above sanji.

Rob Lucci being similar to pre advanced coc luffy actually makes sense since they were so close power wise pretimeskip

You can't expect secondary antagonists barely relevant to the story since Enies Lobby to evolve at the same rate than one of the wings of the future PK and main character. Lucci and Kaku are absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things and already had a primitive mastery of haki pre skip yet got defeated by hakiless characters, including Sanji who defeated a character who was only slightly weaker than Kaku back then.

Sanji casually tanked Hybrid Queen's sword without haki, what Kaku is compared to a guy like Queen ? He's most likely not even top 2 in CP0, does anyone expect him to be above a Yonko's number 2 ?

 

[Shasha23]

Ahhh, so the 3 dozens other attacks Kaido received throughout the course of the fight means jack shit. That one attack from Zoro caused ALL the damage, and is the reason Kaido is weakening. What a fucking joke.

Nope Kaido has been taken damage from all those attacks but none of them made any meaningful damage to him except for the cut Zoro gave him, only after that cut we saw for the first time that Kaido was clearly injured.

Even when Luffy came back into the fight he commented that all his previous attack were doing nothing, only after he started using advCoC did Luffy start seriously damaging Kaido, that is why even Kaido started getting excited.

I got by manga panels and facts here so sorry for you but every attack Kaido took was useless even those advCoA hits from Luffy were nothing to Kaido, the first person to damage Kaido was Zoro, proving that advCoC attack are far superior to Luffy’s advCoA attacks

 

[Lor D. Coast]

> Gamma knife can one shot YC lvl characters
> Awakening is supposed to awaken you to a new level of power

But internal organs damage is supposed to mean nothing

If BM took minimal damage then this wank was all for naught...

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Nope Kaido has been taken damage from all those attacks but none of them made any meaningful damage to him except for the cut Zoro gave him, only after that cut we saw for the first time that Kaido was clearly injured.

Even when Luffy came back into the fight he commented that all his previous attack were doing nothing, only after he started using advCoC did Luffy start seriously damaging Kaido, that is why even Kaido started getting excited.

I got by manga panels and facts here so sorry for you but every attack Kaido took was useless even those advCoA hits from Luffy were nothing to Kaido, the first person to damage Kaido was Zoro, proving that advCoC attack are far superior to Luffy’s advCoA attacks

You're shooting yourself in the foot here. Kaido got excited over Luffy damaging him with AdCoC. Didn't get excited over being scarred. My point has been proven.

 

[Julius]

Drake and Apoo finds Sanji and Sanji asks them to stall Queen for him cuz he can't at the moment, Wueen vs Drake and Apoo Extreme Diff

Sanji starts going Evil, but he somehow finds out that CP-0 will get Robin, so he doesn't go full Evil but focus on preventing her to get captured

Sanji vs Lucci

Spoiler

 

[HA001]

Your shooting yourself in the foot here. Kaido got excited over Luffy damaging him with AdCoC. Didn't get excited over being scarred. My point has been proven.

Because he shit himself.

 

[Shasha23]

Have you reread the chapter where Hyogoro explains the difference between barrier and internal destruction>? If not don't read the rest of this post, go and reread that chapter.

Luffy wanted to learn Hyogoro's BARRIER haki, to overcome Kaido's scale defense, barrier haki is what is needed to overcome the scale defense with your attacks.
BARRIER haki is what the scabbards+ zoro (when unleashing Enma) are using with their ryuo on their swords to be able to cut Kaido.
Similarly BARRIER haki allows punches themselves to do damage to Kaido, internal destruction channels the haki in further into his body and acts as additional damage on top of the blunt damage that has been allowed to get past scale defense.

Now Kaido has extreme durability, damage soak and regenerative properties, but even someone like Marco with regeneration as his primary feature is limited by stamina in it's usage, so it stands to reason that the shredding of Kaido's organs will take up considerable amounts of stamina to offset.

Show me the feats of internal destruction haki shredding Kaido’s organs to hell then, I’m here all week

The only reason Zoro was able to damage Kaido was because of advCoC not barrier haki.

No attack prior to advCoC did anything to Kaido, just accept reality already