Spoiler One Piece Chapter 969 Spoilers Discussion

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The user of the Bari Bari no Mi is Kurozumi Semimaru and the Mane Mane user is Kurozumi Higurashi

Oden demands that Orochi hand back the title of Shogun because he's merely a stand-in for Oden himself. However, Higurashi transforms into Sukiyaki and tells Oden that it's no use, the Daimyo already believe that Orochi is the shogun.

Oden finally reached the limits of his patience when, 5 years after he returned, Kaido/Orochi broke two promises to him. The first was to give him a ship, the second was to return Hyougoro. Instead, Kaido murdered his family, leading Oden to gather the Scabbards to try and take out Kaido.
Oden's naiveness... yall smell that:whitepress:
 
Oden has a person with the Bari Bari and Mane Mane No Mi and somehow managed to jail Oden just took make the timeline work.... Hopefully this flashback is over so that the writing can feel less clunky.
Nothing wrong with writing, this make sense if you see their uses and how it bring downfall to Oden. Probably help in future for Bartolomew's and Bon Clay's future in present on their potential on what to bring when aiding Luffy.
 
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The user of the Bari Bari no Mi is Kurozumi Semimaru and the Mane Mane user is Kurozumi Higurashi

Oden demands that Orochi hand back the title of Shogun because he's merely a stand-in for Oden himself. However, Higurashi transforms into Sukiyaki and tells Oden that it's no use, the Daimyo already believe that Orochi is the shogun.

Oden finally reached the limits of his patience when, 5 years after he returned, Kaido/Orochi broke two promises to him. The first was to give him a ship, the second was to return Hyougoro. Instead, Kaido murdered his family, leading Oden to gather the Scabbards to try and take out Kaido.
now that is now is really upsetting , he was really an idiot
 
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Kaido killed Hyo's family and his spirit were broken , become weak and enslaved
Kaido killed Moria's crew and his spirit was broken , become weak and never fought the way he fought before
no it is the time for the payback.
 
damn.. Oden really was willing to give the country and not putting up a fight againts Orochi under two terms only, and those terms are only related to himself/people close to him. Eventhough people are dying and suffering everyday. That's what he should've been concerned about. At least he's consistent about one thing from the beginning : he's selfish. Screw the people:cheers:
 
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