Powers & Abilities Sanji, raid suit and invisibility

[Hiragaro]

Yeah, with Niji it was just his speed, and speed is his main strength

Doubt. It has to be invisibility aswell. Absalom had the same sfx as Niji and i doubt he is as fast as Niji. Also we saw Niji dash with the RS on and he had the usual visualization for "teleporting" speed, which wasn't different from any of the other vinsmokes and he should be faster with the RS on obviously.

 

[mly90]

Ngl, Sanji keeping the ability to turn invisible and STILL claiming "Goodbye Ladies' Bath" as in "we don't have to see that gag again", it's the best of two worlds.

The main advantage of the rs was the increased durability instead it was used as trigger to awaken his latent exoskeleton powers to give him just that, now if he retains the invisibility on top of that he did get the best of both world. I think his siblings could use their powers without the rs i see no reason why it should be different for Sanji tbh

 

[Kishido]

Doubt. It has to be invisibility aswell. Absalom had the same sfx as Niji and i doubt he is as fast as Niji. Also we saw Niji dash with the RS on and he had the usual visualization for "teleporting" speed, which wasn't different from any of the other vinsmokes and he should be faster with the RS on obviously.

So yeah Niji got invisibilty as well and most likely all others... Makes sense that they never used it to escape and makes sense plot wise if someone is Called Stealth Black but all others can do so well

 

[Julius]

Doubt. It has to be invisibility aswell. Absalom had the same sfx as Niji and i doubt he is as fast as Niji. Also we saw Niji dash with the RS on and he had the usual visualization for "teleporting" speed, which wasn't different from any of the other vinsmokes and he should be faster with the RS on obviously.

 

[Malio]

Niji never had. No one had

Which means it's definitely a speed feat then

 

[Hiragaro]

What do you post it for? That doesn't contradict what i said lol
Niji: Dash Fu
Absalom: Dash Fu
So Absalom was that fast?
Niji even said ''Stealth''

 

[PuckTheGreat]

What do you post it for? That doesn't contradict what i said lol
Niji: Dash Fu
Absalom: Dash Fu
So Absalom was that fast?
Niji even said ''Stealth''

Absalom like Shiryu & Stealth Black is ‘Su’
Niji is ‘Fu’ when he uses Stealth.
‘Stealth’ is just the technique name.

 

[Raiden7]

What do you post it for? That doesn't contradict what i said lol
Niji: Dash Fu
Absalom: Dash Fu
So Absalom was that fast?
Niji even said ''Stealth''

I know the anime add non canon things but in some instances it can help us to understand what happens in the manga. In this case in 1:56 it shows how Niji is not using a technique that involves invisiblity, it is just speed. The name "Stealth" creates ambiguity but it is not invisibility.

 

[Julius]

What do you post it for? That doesn't contradict what i said lol
Niji: Dash Fu
Absalom: Dash Fu
So Absalom was that fast?
Niji even said ''Stealth''

Thats just the name of the technique, probably cuz he get so fast using it that it works as "Stealth"

 

[Hiragaro]

Absalom like Shiryu & Stealth Black is ‘Su’
Niji is ‘Fu’ when he uses Stealth.
‘Stealth’ is just the technique name.

There is literaly a panel circled in with Absalom going 'Fu'. So what is that? Speed? Why is that being ignored? Absalom has both, the 'Su' and the 'Fu'.
And don't tell me Absalom was as fast as Niji.
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I know the anime add non canon things but in some instances it can help us to understand what happens in the manga. In this case in 1:56 it shows how Niji is not using a technique that involves invisiblity, it is just speed. The name "Stealth" creates ambiguity but it is not invisibility.

Anime is Non Canon.

 

[Raiden7]

There is literaly a panel circled in with Absalom going 'Fu'. So what is that? Speed? Why is that being ignored? Absalom has both, the 'Su' and the 'Fu'.
And don't tell me Absalom was as fast as Niji.
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Anime is Non Canon.

Ok, if it's not canon (for you). So every Vinsmoke has a specific power (electricity, poison ecc...) and on top of that every one of them has invisibility too? This is what you think?

 

[Fn Lucci]

The dumbest thing about sfx theories is that none of them have ever been true. The most annoying thing about sfx theories is that even if I felt like sitting around to comb through manga for examples indicating otherwise, Viz translates the sound effects so I'd essentially be looking twice.

 

[Ryuarashi]

The dumbest thing about sfx theories is that none of them have ever been true. The most annoying thing about sfx theories is that even if I felt like sitting around to comb through manga for examples indicating otherwise, Viz translates the sound effects so I'd essentially be looking twice.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

So what the fk the fire come from wow

By spinning and the passion of his heart

 

[Hiragaro]

Ok, if it's not canon (for you).

That's not something everybody decides for themselfs lol
The Anime is not canon, confirmed by Oda multiple times.

So every Vinsmoke has a specific power (electricity, poison ecc...) and on top of that every one of them has invisibility too? This is what you think?

How do you get to that conclusion? We are talking about Niji, i never even mentioned the other vinsmokes having invisibility?

 

[PuckTheGreat]

There is literaly a panel circled in with Absalom going 'Fu'. So what is that? Speed? Why is that being ignored? Absalom has both, the 'Su' and the 'Fu'.
And don't tell me Absalom was as fast as Niji.
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Anime is Non Canon.

True ^^. My bad, missed that 🙏🏿
Fu can mean speed but it is not exclusive to speed. Here from the text it seems to be referring to Absalom vanishing.

What exactly is the argument tho.
The sfx that is common across all the invisibility users when they are phasing out is ‘su’ so what’s the problem?

 

[Raiden7]

That's not something everybody decides for themselfs lol
The Anime is not canon, confirmed by Oda multiple times.

I think only some parts of the anime are non-canon. But whatever.

How do you get to that conclusion? We are talking about Niji, i never even mentioned the other vinsmokes having invisibility?

So Niji, who already has electricity has invisibility too? Why didn't he use this power in WCI if he has it?

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Might as well argue that Niji can use poison as well. Each Vinz kid has an ability exclusive to them. For Niji it’s electricity & for Sanji it’s invisibility. Law even states that Sora’s most troublesome opponent was ‘Stealth Black’ precisely because he can go invisible. Makes no sense for Niji or any other vinsmoke to be capable of using it. Moreover Niji’s Vivre card made no mention of invisibility.

 

[Kishido]

Might as well argue that Niji can use poison as well. Each Vinz kid has an ability exclusive to them. For Niji it’s electricity & for Sanji it’s invisibility. Law even states that Sora’s most troublesome opponent was ‘Stealth Black’ precisely because he can go invisible. Makes no sense for Niji or any other vinsmoke to be capable of using it. Moreover Niji’s Vivre card made no mention of invisibility.

But it was called STEALTH god damn it!!!

 

[Finalbeta]

The main advantage of the rs was the increased durability instead it was used as trigger to awaken his latent exoskeleton powers to give him just that, now if he retains the invisibility on top of that he did get the best of both world. I think his siblings could use their powers without the rs i see no reason why it should be different for Sanji tbh

Indeed. The RS granted him massive durability and realistically we barely saw Sanji making use of his invisibility when he tried to take on King for example. Or even Page One.