Powers & Abilities Explaining Sanji's CoC

[zzShinichi]

I feel like if Oda wants Sanji to have COC then he's gonna have COC, if he doesn't then Sanji isn't gonna. No point in writting an essay to prove/disprove that he's gonna/not gonna have COC. Like shit Ussop is the man furthest from the quality of the King yet most people think he's gonna unlock COC in Elbalf. Same shit with Jinbei. I could write an fucking essay about how Jinbei can also possess COC yet Oda simply doesn't want Jinbei to have one. SO just sit back and wait peps.

 

[Julius]

I feel like if Oda wants Sanji to have COC then he's gonna have COC, if he doesn't then Sanji isn't gonna. No point in writting an essay to prove/disprove that he's gonna/not gonna have COC. Like shit Ussop is the man furthest from the quality of the King yet most people think he's gonna unlock COC in Elbalf. Same shit with Jinbei. I could write an fucking essay about how Jinbei can also possess COC yet Oda simply doesn't want Jinbei to have one. SO just sit back and wait peps.

Yeah thats pretty much it, Jinbei and what he stands could easily fit a character that could get CoC at some point


But one thing im noticing more recently is (on the opposite way some people claimed here):

Getting CoC is much more related to the character inner struggles, their life standards and what they are willing to sacrifice or lose for it, specially their own lives, without hesitating, anything else that comes from them is a bonus.


For example, i didn't mentioned Sanji's great leadership skills throughout the manga and the way people start cheering for him so easily

 

[IsaziSempi]

After Zoro getting it I kind of don't care about it. After Zoro and Doflamingo and kidd having it. The standard means nothing to me. I think he'll just get Future sight. Scopper and Rayleigh might have been rivals but that doesn't mean Gaban had COC.

 

[Sasparan]

If it happens it happens in Wano. After Wano i dont think its gonna happen.

 

[Cregan]

Beside of Sanji not getting CoC, when I see someone use sigma I can`t take you seriously.

 

[Sasparan]

After Zoro getting it I kind of don't care about it. After Zoro and Doflamingo and kidd having it. The standard means nothing to me. I think he'll just get Future sight. Scopper and Rayleigh might have been rivals but that doesn't mean Gaban had COC.

What are you talking about we have 13 confirmed members in 1000 chapters. Did you wanted CoC to be in 3 people.
Also we dont know nothing about Gaban. What is this rival fantasy you are talking about.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Unlikely.

Sanji path will be more science related always.
At max improving coo/COA sounds doable.

 

[Sasparan]

Beside of Sanji not getting CoC, when I see someone use sigma I can`t take you seriously.

:cantseeme:

 

[Fn Lucci]

But that would explain why Oda doesn't make Sanji's dream to find the All Blue such a big deal to his character anymore.

What we have now with the, Sanji's origins, the Germa and Vinsmoke stuff is equally fittable to showcase Sanji's resolution.


And he didn't gave up on his dream to marry Pudding, it was just a consequence. He did it because Pudding was the apparently the only good thing left for him, don't ignore the whole plot around the Baratie, Germa, the crew and an Younko territory

Yeah emperors say "____ or death." They don't just say "well let me look for something else then lol"

They don't come up with random other shit to tell people to sound more important, like Sanji the Marines' Nightmare.

And if giving up on his dream is a consequence, then don't argue the middle man. He gave up his dream. Luffy sacrificed two years knowing he'd be back to his goal. Oden gave five years knowing he'd either accomplish his goal in Wano or kill Orochi, or die trying, if that didn't work. Sanji gave up indefinitely. His life was gonna be Pudding chan lmao

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Yeah emperors say "____ or death." They don't just say "well let me look for something else then lol"

They don't come up with random other shit to tell people to sound more important, like Sanji the Marines' Nightmare.

And if giving up on his dream is a consequence, then don't argue the middle man. He gave up his dream. Luffy sacrificed two years knowing he'd be back to his goal. Oden gave five years knowing he'd either accomplish his goal in Wano or kill Orochi, or die trying, if that didn't work. Sanji gave up indefinitely. His life was gonna be Pudding chan lmao

Sanji would have gladly chose to pay the price of just his own life, as he did many times in the past, including alongside Zoro in TB.

Problem in WCI is that Sanji needed to be alive and make a sacrifice through the wedding and the role he was supposed to play going forward to keep Zeff alive.

Sometimes things are not as simple as just you dying and then everything works out nicely for the ones who matter to you.

 

[Don DaSlayer]

Lanji is already a CuCk you want him to get CoC now?

 

[Geo]

Clearly Oda is building a moment where Zoro and Sanji will have CoC, can you imagine Zoro using CoC and Sanji seeing it taking it like it was ok

Zoro already used COC

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Scopper and Rayleigh might have been rivals but that doesn't mean Gaban had COC.

Scopper and Rayleigh might have been rivals

 

[Julius]

Beside of Sanji not getting CoC, when I see someone use sigma I can`t take you seriously.

It was supposed to be entertaining

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Zoro already used COC

Bruh just read what i typed

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Zoro already used COC

Candyboys can't even understand something as basic as Lanji getting knocked the fuck out by King and you expect them to understand a 15+ years build up for Zoro's CoC?

 

[Julius]

After Zoro getting it I kind of don't care about it. After Zoro and Doflamingo and kidd having it. The standard means nothing to me. I think he'll just get Future sight. Scopper and Rayleigh might have been rivals but that doesn't mean Gaban had COC.

There is no need to create these parallels. We barely know a thing about Gaban like we do about Rayleigh, while Sanji is easily one of the most developed/fleshed oit characters, and it isn't even over.

And btw, Luffy's crew will surpass any other crew easy

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Unlikely.

Sanji path will be more science related always.
At max improving coo/COA sounds doable.

So being a Devil Fruit user prevents you from having CoC?

These argues are so bad bruh srry

 

[Lhulu]

I don't think Sanji will get CoC.

He doesn't need it too, even if he fights an Admiral(GreenBull) at EOS. There's other ways for him to grow, specially after Vegapank's reveal.

 

[vikas]

Sanji CoC

 

[Fn Lucci]

You get that people’s dreams aren’t the only thing that someone can be motivated by right…

Let’s see CoC users who put other things above their dreams:
Oden - Wanted to open wanos borders but instead chose to get his citizens out of Wano after Kaido and orochi took over
Ace - Wanted to see Whitebeard as the pirate king, but chose his crewmates life over his own the entirety of Marineford
Zoro - Wanted to be the WSS but when choosing between his dream and Luffys, he chose to sacrifice his and his life.

Sanji in WCI was given a choice of his life or the lives of those he cherished, he chose his like the other CoC users mentioned above.

At no point did Oden give up on opening the border. Ace chose to avenge Thatch because of Whitebeard's reputation. He faced death at the hands of Blackbeard and mentioned his dream, seeing Whitebeard as PK. They didn't accept those things not happening. If Sanji mentioned seeing All Blue with Pudding sure, but he didn't.

Ace died because he stopped to fight Akainu for shitting on Whitebeard and there by insulting his dream. I bet if Queen said something about the All Blue Sanji would just flip a bird and keep running.

Zoro's dream is intertwined with Luffy's. When Mihawk asked him about it in 3D2Y, his answer was seeing both come true. He specifically said that he wanted to be trained to surpass Mihawk in order to see Luffy's dream come true. With Kuma, it was his life or their dreams, which was why he had to sit Sanji down.

Sanji would have gladly chose to pay the price of just his own life, as he did many times in the past, including alongside Zoro in TB.

Problem in WCI is that Sanji needed to be alive and make a sacrifice through the wedding and the role he was supposed to play going forward to keep Zeff alive.

Sometimes things are not as simple as just you dying and then everything works out nicely for the ones who matter to you.

Again, it wasn't making a temporary sacrifice. His dream was defeated. He was like "shucks Luffy can go become PK without me."

 

[Sir Yasheen]

At no point did Oden give up on opening the border. Ace chose to avenge Thatch because of Whitebeard's reputation. He faced death at the hands of Blackbeard and mentioned his dream, seeing Whitebeard as PK. They didn't accept those things not happening. If Sanji mentioned seeing All Blue with Pudding sure, but he didn't.

Ace died because he stopped to fight Akainu for shitting on Whitebeard and there by insulting his dream. I bet if Queen said something about the All Blue Sanji would just flip a bird and keep running.

Zoro's dream is intertwined with Luffy's. When Mihawk asked him about it in 3D2Y, his answer was seeing both come true. He specifically said that he wanted to be trained to surpass Mihawk in order to see Luffy's dream come true. With Kuma, it was his life or their dreams, which is why he had to sit Sanji down.



Again, it wasn't making a temporary sacrifice. His dream was defeated. He was like "shucks Luffy can go become PK without me."

Zoros dream isn’t to see Luffy become the pirate king, please show me where in Canon hes said that.

Oden literally gave up Wano and chose the citizens over his dream. That was stated outright during his execution.

Ace didn’t die because Akainu insulted his dream he died because Akainu insulted the man he looked up to.

What kind of crappy headcanon are you using to say “Dreams = Motivation.” Show me one point in canon where Big Mom has mentioned her dream of the island where all people can coexist.