[FNZ] Light game Death Note Mini Mafia

[Ultra]

i would rather flip you b4 them
sorry in advance if u r town

why arent you trying to get dest, flower and the inactives to vote prof/lanji
you would certainly have enough numbers

it doesnt look like you have conviction
you just want to lynch whoever

Dude if you flip me and I flip town, you just lose. Lets say that there's a scum between pfor/lanji, and then an inactive as scum. Think about your compounded odds of victory. 50/50 chance to lynch scum multiplied by maybe 1/4? So like 12%? And what about if you get offed?

I did ask dest to vote prof, and I think I can possibly work with him. Why would you expect me to rally inactives though. I have to be honest - no, I'm not putting in 110% effort here, which is what you're apparently expecting me to do to get my way, but I think I've put in well enough effort to get the benefit of the doubt.

You need to treat this as if it were lylo, I dunno how you can sit here and cry about how "WE CAN'T AFFORD MISLYNCHES" when it came to baba but here you seem to have a more casual approach as we get closer to defeat.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Look. You said some things that made me think maybe I’ve just been a paranoid hypocrite and that you might be town. But before anyone sells me on an Ekko lynch I need you to explain why as scum he’d bother pulling off of me instead of burying me.

That’s a serious hurdle for me to get past. Followed by him looking genuine in this frustration over the state of this game.

would u consider a lanji lynch?
can u give full thoughts on lanji

 

[Dr_Professor83]

when u guys catch up can u tell me how much scum u think we r dealing with, and which of the inactive players look worst to you

I guess 2.

Worst inactive would be Don to me for coming in and asking about claims, but I’m starting to doubt either inactive is scum bc of modblocks/both are players I could see going inactive if they roled vanilla town. Don’t think either would do this as scum.

and what do u guys feel about ultra not claiming? townie or scummy? or NAI

More NAI considering the death note name tinfoil. But if he is truly about to get lynched/hammered then I’d expect him to claim as Town because that’s better than getting lynched if it helps avoid that.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

Dude if you flip me and I flip town, you just lose. Lets say that there's a scum between pfor/lanji, and then an inactive as scum. Think about your compounded odds of victory. 50/50 chance to lynch scum multiplied by maybe 1/4? So like 12%? And what about if you get offed?

I did ask dest to vote prof, and I think I can possibly work with him. Why would you expect me to rally inactives though. I have to be honest - no, I'm not putting in 110% effort here, which is what you're apparently expecting me to do to get my way, but I think I've put in well enough effort to get the benefit of the doubt.

You need to treat this as if it were lylo, I dunno how you can sit here and cry about how "WE CAN'T AFFORD MISLYNCHES" when it came to baba but here you seem to have a more casual approach as we get closer to defeat.

if you flip town we straight up lose because inactives might be modkilled or they wont even bother voting so we will never reach majority anyway

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

@Ultra can you claim character/role?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

claiming is such a lazy way out im aware

we shud be able to read u without it

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

but its a tool that we have, so we shud use
its part of the game

 

[Ultra]

okay i suggested a dest wagon why arent you joining that?
whats stopping u from scum reading dest whats so towny about him?

i agree prof/lanji were pretty scummy, i just dont know if i can let you go yet again after day 1 and 2 EoD
we can continue our discussion i dont want to mislynch

lets start from scratch
run me through ur thought process

first the zem tunnel despite others telling u she was good
then the alibaba tunnel despite others telling u its not optimal lynch

im gna have to find quoets and we can run discussion there

I explained much earlier why I was town reading dest as part of my case on Lanji. Kind of a pain to pull it up, near the start of D2.

If you want me to explain my Zem tunnel, I mean, *you were there* you evaluated my response as similar to your own in past circumstances. Her responses to pressure were super bad, I caught an awkward instance of her accusing enryu of bullshit and it could have very easily been explained away by her, but instead she chose to accuse me of being the boogeyman. How dare I push her when she's having a bad day, etc. And call in for assistance from players she emotionally manipulated. All she had to fucking do was explain her thought process, but that's how Zemmi chose to handle it. You tell me you would have done any different.

I did not know if alibaba was truthful about being indie, or if he was telling the whole truth. In hindsight, I can now say insisting he was mafia past a certain point was objectively not a good conclusion to come to. I do get tunnel vision myself, sometimes. But also, he was not totally up front with his indie claim when he got caught. When that happens, I'm less inclined to extend charity. Recall how prolonged his actual claim was. I might have given him a pass if he laid all his cards on the table, but he didn't. You should be faulting him and not just me.

 

[Ultra]

@Ultra can you claim character/role?

...Did you not see my initial response to the prompt that I should claim?

 

[Ultra]

I'm VT, my flavor claim can just be easily written off as fodder (maybe slightly less fodder than the other claims so far, but still). Literally now benefit, I just sign up to be death noted. Why are you so insistent.

 

[Ultra]

I guess 2.

Worst inactive would be Don to me for coming in and asking about claims, but I’m starting to doubt either inactive is scum bc of modblocks/both are players I could see going inactive if they roled vanilla town. Don’t think either would do this as scum.

More NAI considering the death note name tinfoil. But if he is truly about to get lynched/hammered then I’d expect him to claim as Town because that’s better than getting lynched if it helps avoid that.

I actually refuse to claim in any circumstance because if I get saved that makes it even worse. Therefore there's actually categorically no point, at all. It doesn't give you any information that you wouldn't have when I flip.

 

[Ultra]

idk Lanji's meta but what would you guys expect him to be doing right now as town/scum? In general.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

would u consider a lanji lynch?
can u give full thoughts on lanji

Yeah I’d definitely consider it. I came into the day thinking he was the most likely to be scum by a slight maragin. But then his point about Ultra’s CFD on you did look like a good case to me and Lanji started looking more townie. I still thought he could be scum but I thought it would be smarter to lynch Ultra first and go from there bc either Lanji was right or he was probably scum.

But now I don’t feel as good on Ultra being scum bc the two biggest things that would make him scum are the end of the Alibaba lynch and the CFD attempt on you. And the Alibaba theory makes less sense with Alibaba stating that he wanted to go for either Enryu or Zolo. Both of them were Town so I don’t really think Alibaba was a big threat to scum, if anything he could have helped them get ride of a townie maybe.

Then the CFD on you is something I can see him doing as scum, but also it’s something everyone else felt too but Ultra was just the one to actually say it/try to do it. So it really might not make him scum either. And the rest of his D1 & D2 stuff looked pretty Town to me.

Basically by process of elimination I’m thinking you’re probably town and Ultra’s case may not be that strong which leaves Lanji as a default. I don’t think Lanji looks crazy scummy, but I town read him strongly in the Naruto game.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

idk Lanji's meta but what would you guys expect him to be doing right now as town/scum? In general.

He really looks the same as town and scum to me in the games we’ve played. So Idk. As either I’d expect him to come in here and start asking questions/poking and making some good points. The only thing I really have on him is that his vote in D2 felt like a pretty apathetic park to me.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I actually refuse to claim in any circumstance because if I get saved that makes it even worse. Therefore there's actually categorically no point, at all. It doesn't give you any information that you wouldn't have when I flip.

is ur character a detective/cop/L associate/light associate? what is their occupation in the series
pls answer

its better to stay alive that be lynched without claiming

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I actually refuse to claim in any circumstance because if I get saved that makes it even worse. Therefore there's actually categorically no point, at all. It doesn't give you any information that you wouldn't have when I flip.

How would it be worse if you got saved?

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

I'm VT, my flavor claim can just be easily written off as fodder (maybe slightly less fodder than the other claims so far, but still). Literally now benefit, I just sign up to be death noted. Why are you so insistent.

i need to check smth

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

why is it taking so long to claim occupation

 

[Dr_Professor83]

nah its because you are pushing other lynches while blatantly lying about me
you are full of shit

Posts like these seem Town to me from Lanji. I haven’t played that many games with him but the two times I’ve seen him as scum he didn’t have this much bite back.

 

[EkkoLoJinx]

@Ultra come bk here man cmon
we had a nice discussion going