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How much did King surpass your expectations?

  • Not at all, performs as expected

  • Slightly exceeded my expectations

  • Surpassed my wildest imaginations


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#21
Gonna ignore whatever wank you are disguising in your thread and focus on solely King

It's what I would expect from Yonko right hand men. I think Oda even took his sweet ass time to get to this point, more than 100 chapters since his intro.

It was about fucking time.
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Also have to say I neever expected King to overpower Zoro in close combat let alone in an actual sword fight.

Good hype for King.
 
#22
I would argue we haven't even seen all of him yet.

The only time he was serious about this fight was when Zoro cracked his mask and King just casually sent Zoro flying from the Live Floor to outside of Onigashima. Makes me wonder how much more aggressive he's going to get when he's unmasked lol.
They shouldn't be down bad but celebrate instead, after all, Zoro ended up the one facing the biggest threat in Wano...
I was always on team King since his intro quite obvious he would be Zoro opponent man can't say i'm disappointed he definitely exceeded my expectation specially with that durability that even surpass Kaido. After what Zoro displayed Oda had no choice i guess than to make King a monster:king:
Great thread!

As pillars of King fans, we are proud of you, nik-san :suresure:

The more it goes the more Oda is just proving me again and again that the n°2 of yonkou are not low or mid diff for their captains (the exception being Kaido as WSC but he ain't low diffing King).
First if people accept that thing, it will help a lot for powerscaling and not for changing every weeks ...
King only had YC1 portrayal thus far. He lacked the feats, but it was to be expected judging by his portrayal that he'd have something special

- Katakuri having his FS
- Marco with his regeneration

With King's being his lunarian traits
We definitely didn't. The focus around this chapter was to figure out the secret behind his race and the fire behind his back, why it's making him so powerful and difficult to hurt, with fire abilities he barely used yet, and the defense possibly being related to high lvl of hardening

We'd most likely gain more details around this when Zoro will break his mask completely
Can't wait.

Best fight on Wano.
King performing like this after we saw how Zoro was doing on the roof really is surprising but I’m here for it

he’s a beast
:myman:
I know this has been said before, but King's portrayal confirms that every YC1 has at least one hax that would allow one of their stats to surpass their captains'.

Katakuri can see the future, whereas Big Mom is one of the most careless fighters around.

Marco can regen almost infinitely to the point that even a Yonko admitted that she needed more firepower to stop Marco, while even fodders can easily hurt WB.

And now it turns out that King is more durable than Kaido (I think it will be that his flames allow him to adapt to damages), to the point that he could no sell attacks that could hurt Kaido.

This means, Rayleigh, Ben and Shiryu must have one hax that makes one of their stats above their respective boss'. Should be pretty fun to guess what they are. :myman:
 
#29
King made Zoro look like a toddler.

This dude actually came into CQC just for the shits and giggles lmao. He didn't need to, but he let Zoro know he's playing with his food.

Ngl Zoro fans down bad this week.

Y'all really thought oda was gonna do a rhm dirty.
if taking an L means I get a savage fight like this, I will gladly oblige :eeke:

Zoro still taking off that Oni's head though :hapnoel:
 
#30
this the best thing i read in the last 3 days, thank you man :myman:

i'm not a big fan of king, but so far he had nothing short of godly portrayal, he is perfect as a combatant, has good crew management skills, aggressive, independent, has interesting lore, and his character development is yet to be completed.

i don't expect anything good from one piece any more, but i do expect greatness from king.

he just made it into my list of favorits: zoro, blackbeard, akainu, king.
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
#31
I said all it would take is a single chapter for impressions on King to completely turn around. It doesn't hurt to look at these things more holistically.

But even so, King has surpassed some of my expectations of him. I never would've guessed his defense would be this formidable, and most of Zoro's hurdles to overcome would be his mobility and greater speed than the other Zoan users. Not only that, but he's straight up outclassing him on multiple levels atm.

If nothing else, King seems to be the most efficient fighter among the Beast Pirates. He seems downright amazing in every area.

Amazing read, Nik-san.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#32
I am coping? There is plenty of evidence for what I said in this thread.
All you have to do is look at it. Or you are the one coping because you dont like what evidence shows?
No sir, been consistent in saying that beating King 1v1 was always going to be a tougher feat than getting jabs in on the rooftop well before we knew who King was facing.

I dunno about you but a chunk of the Zoro fanbase was crying not too long ago when someone would mention Zoro fighting King in a thread.
Y'all really downplayed this man for atleast half a year only for it to backfire dkm.

Really thought Zoro, who was bullying Monet and Pica, who didn't do a lick of 1v1 against a commander, was gonna come in and babyshake a rhm, don't ever disrespect a Yonkou's right hand again. That's the lesson of the year for some of y'all.
 
#33
We all knew this was coming the moment Oda started spilling the beans on the most mysterious character in the whole of Wano!

We all thought Kaido was the most special character among beast pirates and it turns out that his mere underling is stealing the show despite Oda keeping it all under wraps until just several chapters ago... This mere commander ended up the only remaining member of a race that was considered gods in the distant past, long before the 20 Kings took over the world and drove out Lunarians out of their god's land atop of the Red Wall...

The mystery is still far from revealed and King's background plays a much bigger role than that of Kaido who is an Oni, a parallel to the baddie from Momotaro story and whose all the abilities are given through the devil fruit that Big Mom has gifted to him 38 years ago while King's abilities come from his Lunarian race. King is also the last Beast Pirates member whose hybrid form was revealed, Oda has kept that one hidden for the longest. All abilities surrounding Kaido are revealed while King is still a mystery.

The more time passes the more spotlight King steals from the captain of the Beast Pirates. Many among the fandom have wondered why the rooftop happened first and vs King happened afterwards - now it is all clear, because now King cannot be underestimated and downplayed after we have seen Zoro's performance on the rooftop. The bar is raised very high and King is delivering good, too good to the point that even Kaido fans are feeling uneasy and threatened by King's performance. That's how you quickly build up a powerful villain, by making him keep up with the guy that the Emperors cant keep up with. The rooftop was King's hype tool.

The anxiety is not unjustified because Kaido is a tough sitting duck while King is also tough without being a sitting duck and instead is delivering on all fronts. Both of them are the toughest creatures in the world and King just confirmed that his toughness is on another level.

He didnt need to confirm it because we already all saw that he handles Zoro's damage better than Kaido but it doesnt hurt spelling it out, to kill all the doubts. Once again, there are 3 confirmations that King's toughness eclipses even that of Kaido - King's own words, feats of shrugging off Zoro's hits and the foreshadowing all the way back from Punk Hazard.


When it comes to the comparison between a mere underling and a captain, this is not the first time that the underling looks better than the captain. Zoro broke that ice a long time ago and reinforced it again during the rooftop battle between the new generation and the old generation. I know that the fandom power scales with a blindfold and Muh captain>mere underling but we need to examine the difference between every captain and his right hand because the gap may not exist at all. Just because Meme addresses Katakuri with "lowly son of mine" it doesnt mean that Zoro cant clap Luffy or that King isnt comparable to Kaido because he definitely is...

The toughness is definitely the biggest shock considering that Kaido is called the toughest in the world:
Close combat attack frequency:
Kaido has something similar vs Yamato while they are using 1 weapon each. King is better since he is keeping up with 3 swords.
Ranged combat attack frequency:
Something similar to Kizaru's attack Yasakani no Magatama...
Attack traveling speed, basically instant and unblockable, with decent destructive capability:
Reflexes and dodging instantaneous attacks like Zoro's flying slashes:
Incredible physical strength that Zoro compares to two races which are known to be physically more powerful than humans:
Even more overwhelming physical strength gained through his speed flight paired with a slap of the giant wing in hybrid:
Close combat style complexity having to deal with kicks as well as sword and there is a possibility that he may include wings as well in future:
Kaido vs Tatsumaki:
King vs Tatsumaki:
Kaido's flying slashes vs Zoro:
King's flying slashes vs Zoro:

The list goes on and will continue to go on but you catch my drift, you have to try really hard to find a thing that Kaido is better at than King. What is going on?!
Is a mere underling supposed to look good? Is this the first time an underling looks good or they always looked good but were shrugged off as insignificant by people who cant power scale and because they fought Zoro?

An underling has never been limited by the captain's strength but in King's case, his captain is the strongest in the world... My question is how does a guy who is worse than King at almost every stat out there still remain stronger than King? Are endurance and stamina the key to Kaido's victory over King?

I guess it came true what I was saying the whole time - Zoro's opponents are incredible fighters, better fighters than people that Luffy faces.
Not just better but whole another level better:

The funny part is that this time they are not just stealing the combat spotlight but also the lore and significance in the world of One Piece...
As someone else said, Luffy's greatest chess move is recruiting Zoro into his crew and it seems Kaido plays chess just as well considering King's performance.

I cracked the ice with the difference between YCs and top tiers not being anywhere close to what people have imagined it to be and now it seems that King and Zoro have proven that there is no difference whatsoever. Is it a coincidence that Beckman is comparable to Shanks? Is it a coincidence that Blackbeard plays chess well too and recruits a man more dangerous than the man who ended entire Blackbeard pirates in an instant?

It is very odd that World's Strongest Creature isnt the one who gives the best performance against a power-seeking character like Zoro but instead his mere underling...
What are your thoughts on this?


I love him honestly.
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Gonna ignore whatever wank you are disguising in your thread and focus on solely King

It's what I would expect from Yonko right hand men. I think Oda even took his sweet ass time to get to this point, more than 100 chapters since his intro.

It was about fucking time.
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Also have to say I neever expected King to overpower Zoro in close combat let alone in an actual sword fight.

Good hype for King.
I have been saying King will give Zoro an extreme diff fight and it looks like I was right.

I am welcoming it, Zoro will just grow that much stronger after this fight.

He will finally breach into top tier status once Wano ends with mastered enma ( which was foreshadowed here, I think this is his new powerup to beat King just like he needed to cut steal to beat Mr1)
 
#36
And now it turns out that King is more durable than Kaido (I think it will be that his flames allow him to adapt to damages), to the point that he could no sell attacks that could hurt Kaido
Yeah df wise Queen should be more durable than King, there's def something else that enhances King's dura of his ancient zoan.

Would like if it's because of his fire and him using it similar to how Kinemon did on Okiku except he adapts to it because he's an ancient zoan or some shit.

Looking forward what Shiryu's hax gonna be with the invisibility, awakening and his killing intent :steef:
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#38
"Oh you think I'm winning only because I'm fighting from a distance and you can't reach me?"

*Comes in to bitchslap him across the map again.*

Gotta love King. Absolute savage.
He used CoA hardening on his sword this chapter just to win that sword duel against Zoro and show his superiority to him, while he was matching him without it all this while.

This is gonna be one hell of a fight for sure lol. Absolutely love his personality.
 
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