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No.
You're proving that you don't understand a single thing about AP except that it relates to DC. Also, Kinemon used hax.
No, it's about the energy of the attack.
That's why Zoro's feat is mountain lv+ even though he didn't completely destroy the golem. Even Oven boiling the sea is an AP feat because he releases huge amount of energy to boil this amount of water.
Zoro won't always randomly cut some mountains when fighting with his hardened swords but the energy of his attacks still packs this amount of force.
Okay... lol
You're coming up with the current AP king of One Piece to make a valid point why destroying the plateau >>> matching Zoro's hardening slashes AND overpowering it in result. Well, you're wrong.
As always, you come up with arguments which are out of context so much, I don't even understand what you're trying to bring up here. Akainu matching WB is an AP feat too, he has the lethality to mortally wound his enemies with his lava techniques. That's about it.
Do you believe Oven would have matched WB's AP if he had the magu magu no mi instead? Because the DF is lethal af? No, it's because Akainu is simply a tough guy with one of the most offensive powers in the OP world.
No, you're confusing Zoro's AP with lethality.
It is one thing to cut an arm with a katana but it is another thing to to cut an entire mountain with it too, even if you're magically able to send out a massive air slash (shockwave).
Air slashes get weaker when they travel a larger distance, that's why Zoro had to get near the golem to cut it in pieces. If it's just lethality and AoE, how comes it loses power in the halfway?
You're proving that you don't understand a single thing about AP except that it relates to DC. Also, Kinemon used hax.
No, it's about the energy of the attack.
That's why Zoro's feat is mountain lv+ even though he didn't completely destroy the golem. Even Oven boiling the sea is an AP feat because he releases huge amount of energy to boil this amount of water.
Zoro won't always randomly cut some mountains when fighting with his hardened swords but the energy of his attacks still packs this amount of force.
Okay... lol
You're coming up with the current AP king of One Piece to make a valid point why destroying the plateau >>> matching Zoro's hardening slashes AND overpowering it in result. Well, you're wrong.
As always, you come up with arguments which are out of context so much, I don't even understand what you're trying to bring up here. Akainu matching WB is an AP feat too, he has the lethality to mortally wound his enemies with his lava techniques. That's about it.
Do you believe Oven would have matched WB's AP if he had the magu magu no mi instead? Because the DF is lethal af? No, it's because Akainu is simply a tough guy with one of the most offensive powers in the OP world.
No, you're confusing Zoro's AP with lethality.
It is one thing to cut an arm with a katana but it is another thing to to cut an entire mountain with it too, even if you're magically able to send out a massive air slash (shockwave).
Air slashes get weaker when they travel a larger distance, that's why Zoro had to get near the golem to cut it in pieces. If it's just lethality and AoE, how comes it loses power in the halfway?
Wtf are you talking about? Kinemon cut fire. Zoro cut bricks. I guess Kin has this AP?
Go back to comparing X-Drake to Law or something.
No, you're just a tool. Your destructive capability is measured by your ENVIRONMENT. That's what WB put on show.
Pica can casually destroy cities. That's WAY bigger AP than anything King has.
Go back to comparing X-Drake to Law or something.
No, you're just a tool. Your destructive capability is measured by your ENVIRONMENT. That's what WB put on show.
Pica can casually destroy cities. That's WAY bigger AP than anything King has.
Kinemon has fire cutting hax, can you read?
Considering that you put Law's spatial hax, when he cut the mountain in PH, as an AP feat, it does not wonder me that much.
Then explain to me how Zoro was unable to cut said bricks from a distance of a few kilometers?
Explain to me the exact ability which made it possible for Zoro to cut mountains? If it's a haki thing, why was his 1080 PC able to cut the golem too?
Explain to me why current Zoro managed to cut Onigashima's horn from a much larger distance instead?
Considering that you said Bound Man has Yonko level strength, considering that you put every single mfer on YC3 level, considering that you put Pica's AP >>> King's (currently), it's really rich coming from you.
At least I retconned my opinion when I saw that Drake wasn't that strong at the end. What comes from you? You come up with a mountain of excuses to still justify your zero logic powerscaling - I guess you still put Bege on par with Jack and Cracker?
Listen man, you're just like a rambling brat stomping on the ground whenever an argument doesn't go in his favor, tearly screaming "NO NO I DON WANNAAAA!!" while stubbornly demanding your well deserved lollipop but it does not work like that.
You claimed Pica's AP is far better, so you have to prove it - or at least give valid explanations to it.
When losing this argument, what can you possibly hope for to still prove Pica's AP >>> King's? You're throwing words like AP, DC and lethality around without understanding their initial purpose.
Once again, since you're unable to read through: No, it's about the energy of the attack.
That's why Zoro's feat is mountain lv+ even though he didn't completely destroy the golem. Even Oven boiling the sea is an AP feat because he releases huge amount of energy to boil this amount of water.
Zoro won't always randomly cut some mountains when fighting with his hardened swords but the energy of his attacks still packs this amount of force.
AP can be measured by the environmental damage but it isn't a must have - try to grasp that. There are several factors - ie the amount of KE required to lift Pica's torso a few hundreds of meters.
BTW, you keep talking about WB's AP feat but do you actually know that his tsunami earthquake are at least country level in fact? "Huh, what are you talking about? It's just comparable to MF in size!" Well, look up for tsunami quakes, less smaller, which force/energy is required to release those, you'd be surprised.
Don't get mad at me for schooling you.
Considering that you put Law's spatial hax, when he cut the mountain in PH, as an AP feat, it does not wonder me that much.
Then explain to me how Zoro was unable to cut said bricks from a distance of a few kilometers?
Explain to me the exact ability which made it possible for Zoro to cut mountains? If it's a haki thing, why was his 1080 PC able to cut the golem too?
Explain to me why current Zoro managed to cut Onigashima's horn from a much larger distance instead?
Considering that you said Bound Man has Yonko level strength, considering that you put every single mfer on YC3 level, considering that you put Pica's AP >>> King's (currently), it's really rich coming from you.
At least I retconned my opinion when I saw that Drake wasn't that strong at the end. What comes from you? You come up with a mountain of excuses to still justify your zero logic powerscaling - I guess you still put Bege on par with Jack and Cracker?
Listen man, you're just like a rambling brat stomping on the ground whenever an argument doesn't go in his favor, tearly screaming "NO NO I DON WANNAAAA!!" while stubbornly demanding your well deserved lollipop but it does not work like that.
You claimed Pica's AP is far better, so you have to prove it - or at least give valid explanations to it.
When losing this argument, what can you possibly hope for to still prove Pica's AP >>> King's? You're throwing words like AP, DC and lethality around without understanding their initial purpose.
Once again, since you're unable to read through: No, it's about the energy of the attack.
That's why Zoro's feat is mountain lv+ even though he didn't completely destroy the golem. Even Oven boiling the sea is an AP feat because he releases huge amount of energy to boil this amount of water.
Zoro won't always randomly cut some mountains when fighting with his hardened swords but the energy of his attacks still packs this amount of force.
AP can be measured by the environmental damage but it isn't a must have - try to grasp that. There are several factors - ie the amount of KE required to lift Pica's torso a few hundreds of meters.
BTW, you keep talking about WB's AP feat but do you actually know that his tsunami earthquake are at least country level in fact? "Huh, what are you talking about? It's just comparable to MF in size!" Well, look up for tsunami quakes, less smaller, which force/energy is required to release those, you'd be surprised.
Don't get mad at me for schooling you.
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An attact that was confirmed by Big Mom to significantly hurt Kaido, with a range spanning almost half of Onigashima. Yes, Pica has better AP because of his golem. 
If it's about Pica's punches. That shit is legit OP, mate.
The shockwave alone sent Zoro and Luffy all the way from the middle of the town back to the colosseum. It's not that useful in a one-on-one setting though.
As for King, Zoro's doing this to the Golem with his Hakified swords and no-named attacks:
King did this to a much stronger Zoro
He lacked advanced haki lmao
The shockwave alone sent Zoro and Luffy all the way from the middle of the town back to the colosseum. It's not that useful in a one-on-one setting though.
As for King, Zoro's doing this to the Golem with his Hakified swords and no-named attacks:
King did this to a much stronger Zoro
He lacked advanced haki lmao
I mean, sure, he'd have destroyed the plateau. It is above Zoro's nameless hakified slashes? Definitely not.
I do recall a panel when Pica's golem, despite a bit smaller one, punched through Zoro but the later still cut the golem without issues despite being punched to the ground.
But you know, it's much easier to say "Pica's AP >>> King's" just for the sake of King downplay lol.
I do recall a panel when Pica's golem, despite a bit smaller one, punched through Zoro but the later still cut the golem without issues despite being punched to the ground.
But you know, it's much easier to say "Pica's AP >>> King's" just for the sake of King downplay lol.
I mean, sure, he'd have destroyed the plateau. It is above Zoro's nameless hakified slashes? Definitely not.
I do recall a panel when Pica's golem, despite a bit smaller one, punched through Zoro but the later still cut the golem without issues despite being punched to the ground.
But you know, it's much easier to say "Pica's AP >>> King's" just for the sake of King downplay lol.
I do recall a panel when Pica's golem, despite a bit smaller one, punched through Zoro but the later still cut the golem without issues despite being punched to the ground.
But you know, it's much easier to say "Pica's AP >>> King's" just for the sake of King downplay lol.