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that means norms should be the same, as god knows better... or god changed the law or liberals did ? if liberals did than its allright to fuck 12 years old girl... we are not monkeys but we can allways live by monkey laws
Norms depend on ideologies and not everyone shares then and god doesn't control ideologies of the world except for his own religion and doctrine he presented his messenger with to spread it thoroughout the world... due to time progression we had more obligation like studies, work and wars lacked and the prime age to be married where in some place its 14 to 16 coz thats when Puberty and reproductive developments at at peak apparently.. some females hit Puberty early and develop reproductive parts as well...

and we're just talking about spousal pleasure not even giving birth since Aisha may allah be pleased with her didn't have kids...

in the context of marriage if the Prophet was very thirsty for pleasure he would wait for years for her to start hitting Puberty until consummation

and the Prophet already had another wife.

you don't say that about countries where the norm go to 14 year or even 16 coz they are norms.. and they change as obligations an roles in societies change
Bro if you study marriage in Islam and how it functions it'd way more clearer coz I'm just assuming you know thing you're likely not.
 

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Norms depend on ideologies and not everyone shares then and god doesn't control ideologies of the world except for his own religion and doctrine he presented his messenger with to spread it thoroughout the world... due to time progression we had more obligation like studies, work and wars lacked and the prime age to be married where in some place its 14 to 16 coz thats when Puberty and reproductive developments at at peak apparently.. some females hit Puberty early and develop reproductive parts as well...

and we're just talking about spousal pleasure not even giving birth since Aisha may allah be pleased with her didn't have kids...

in the context of marriage if the Prophet was very thirsty for pleasure he would wait for years for her to start hitting Puberty until consummation

and the Prophet already had another wife.

you don't say that about countries where the norm go to 14 year or even 16 coz they are norms.. and they change as obligations an roles in societies change
Bro if you study marriage in Islam and how it functions it'd way more clearer coz I'm just assuming you know thing you're likely not.
Im jsut saying you wouldnt want your 12 years old kid be sexually used. and if you took care of this child you wouldnt put a finger on her.... and if GOD made law he wouldnt change it, humans would
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Didnt you readwhat I said earlier? He probably didnt have sex withher.
And laws change over time
Yes god changed laws... If your god says its ok to fuck 12 years old that means human law dont matter right?
 

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You should read up onthatstuff you're talking about here....

You just love taking things out of context:lawsigh:
I said I dont give a shit about religion... I find it all flawed... we are all being lied too and we all defend sometimes what we never question. Im wrong on many thing too, I admit , and I may never realise it.
 
I said I dont give a shit about religion... I find it all flawed... we are all being lied too and we all defend sometimes what we never question. Im wrong on many thing too, I admit , and I may never realise it.
But you said you are pagan that's also a religion
 
Im jsut saying you wouldnt want your 12 years old kid be sexually used. and if you took care of this child you wouldnt put a finger on her.... and if GOD made law he wouldnt change it, humans would
Look god never made this law.. its a NORM again.

I'll give you that our Prophet (peasce be upon him was ordered to marry Aisha (may allah be pleased with her) but that doesn't mean or goes for us right now as well since its a different time.. in Islam there is a concept of Qiyas its basically innovation based on how the world evolves and rightly making laws around the changes to better accommodate ourselves to the society .. that is done by our scholars.. if our scholars decide that the norms have changed then the rules would change as well...and thats has what happened..

and beside you're not telling me anything regarding what wrong when back in ancient times girls that hit Puberty early were engaged and could commensurate...as sign or completion of marriage..

do you even know what marriage is in Islam?
 
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