Speculations Akainu probably wiped out the Lunarians (based on VC-info and portrayal)

[EmperorKinyagi]

Although it hasn’t been confirmed, it’s basically certain that the Lunarians were wiped out by the World Government.

Time of the Lunarian Genocide?
Based on King’s relatively young age (47) and the fact that relatively recent and significant historical events (think the God Valley incident) have been erased from history, I would argue that the Lunarian genocide more than likely occurred somewhat recently, and not a thousand years ago.

The Vivre Cards Prove that King has a Vendetta Against the Marines
We also know from the Vivre Card, that King and King alone was accompanying Kaido to Marineford. Now this may just be wank for King, but I think it’s deeper than that. King probably has some vendetta against the World Government and by extension some living marines.

Which Marines? (why Akainu?)
Once you accept that King has some vendetta against the marines and world government, there’s actually more evidence to back Akainu being one of King’s targets than any other living marine:

1) He’s probably more OK with genocide than the other admirals/higher tier marines. The O’Hara incident basically proves this.

2) There is a clear magma vs fire dynamic established in One Piece. The volcano man playing a big role in the annihilation of the fire men would fit this.

3) It would start to transition Akainu back into the story as an antagonist. This is not a trivial point. Regardless of whether you think Akainu is a fight for Sabo, a non-EOS fight, the final fight, etc., at some point he needs to be dealt with. Akainu being a major figure in a successful genocide builds him up and would be good writing on the part of Oda.

Also @TheAncientCenturion asked to be tagged in my next thread so here you go.

 

[Salah WG]

It's highly possible that Lunarians were wiped out with a Volcano (Similar to Pompeii)
And for some reason they weren't able to escape, but King was the sole Survivor cuz he ate the Pteranodon DF

And no, Akainu didn't do it, it was just a Natural Volcano
It's even possible that Lunarians might have survived it but were in a hopeless state (Another reference to Pompeii)
And then WG took them for Experimentation or whatever they wanted from them

 

[Zowo]

no

 

[Jailer]

King was accompanying Kaido who wanted to kill WB himself, but for Akainu yeah right.

Welcome back btw.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

King was accompanying Kaido who wanted to kill WB himself, but for Akainu yeah right.

Welcome back btw.

So you don’t think King is likely to have a vendetta against the world government/marines?

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It's highly possible that Lunarians were wiped out with a Volcano (Similar to Pompeii)
And for some reason they weren't able to escape, but King was the sole Survivor cuz he ate the Pteranodon DF

And no, Akainu didn't do it, it was just a Natural Volcano
It's even possible that Lunarians might have survived it but were in a hopeless state (Another reference to Pompeii)
And then WG took them for Experimentation or whatever they wanted from them

Too coincidental. If Oda wanted to write in a Volcano killing the Lunarians and also have King hate the world government, he would definitely include Akainu. That’s just how he writes.

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no

Why not?

 

[qwe]

So you don’t think King is likely to have a vendetta against the world government/marines?

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Too coincidental. If Oda wanted to write in a Volcano killing the Lunarians and also have King hate the world government, he would definitely include Akainu. That’s just how he writes.

Won't that contradict King Former Impel Down head theory

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Won't that contradict King Former Impel Down head theory

I would argue that the reveal that King wears his suit to hide his face/body effectively debunks the Impel Down theory.

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akainu to young
lunarians were wiped out decades ago probably
only king left

Akainu is a good decade older than King.

Say the genocide happened 30-40 years ago. That would make Akainu 20-30, which fits.

 

[Zowo]

Akainu is a good decade older than King.

Say the genocide happened 30-40 years ago. That would make Akainu 20-30, which fits.

here is a thing
celestial dragons were already there before akainu was even born
king race was wiped before akainu was even born
so it doesnt make any sense for akainu to erease them
king is 47
akainu is 54

 

[Zara]

You got no idea when King’s race was wiped out and you somehow found a way to give Akainu credit for it.

Big News Morgan should consider hiring you as one of his writers.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

here is a thing
celestial dragons were already there before akainu was even born
king race was wiped before akainu was even born
so it doesnt make any sense for akainu to erease them
king is 47
akainu is 54

Again, we don’t know when King’s race was wiped out. Read the post before you reply lol.

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You got no idea when King’s race was wiped out and you somehow found a way to give Akainu credit for it.

Big News Morgan should consider hiring you as one of his writers.

Apparently you didn’t notice the “speculations” tag or the “probaby” in the title.

Everyday I get more and more confident that like 80+% of this community can’t actually read and/or failed high school literature.

 

[Finalbeta]

Papazuki wanted to establish himself as the only Real God around

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Imu or the gorosei are the most indicative to have done that

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Imu or the gorosei are the most indicative to have done that

There aren’t 6+ top tiers just sitting in Mariejois. The odds of Imu or the Gorosei specifically involving themselves in a genocide is less than 1%.

 

[Steven]

Let him pass Marco first,let alone Kings whole Race

 

[Cinera]

Although it hasn’t been confirmed, it’s basically certain that the Lunarians were wiped out by the World Government.

Time of the Lunarian Genocide?
Based on King’s relatively young age (47) and the fact that relatively recent and significant historical events (think the God Valley incident) have been erased from history, I would argue that the Lunarian genocide more than likely occurred somewhat recently, and not a thousand years ago.

The Vivre Cards Prove that King has a Vendetta Against the Marines
We also know from the Vivre Card, that King and King alone was accompanying Kaido to Marineford. Now this may just be wank for King, but I think it’s deeper than that. King probably has some vendetta against the World Government and by extension some living marines.

Which Marines? (why Akainu?)
Once you accept that King has some vendetta against the marines and world government, there’s actually more evidence to back Akainu being one of King’s targets than any other living marine:

1) He’s probably more OK with genocide than the other admirals/higher tier marines. The O’Hara incident basically proves this.

2) There is a clear magma vs fire dynamic established in One Piece. The volcano man playing a big role in the annihilation of the fire men would fit this.

3) It would start to transition Akainu back into the story as an antagonist. This is not a trivial point. Regardless of whether you think Akainu is a fight for Sabo, a non-EOS fight, the final fight, etc., at some point he needs to be dealt with. Akainu being a major figure in a successful genocide builds him up and would be good writing on the part of Oda.

Also @TheAncientCenturion asked to be tagged in my next thread so here you go.

King's race was wiped out before the Celestial Dragons set up home on Mariejoa.

It was wiped out long before Akainu was born.

King's race were called "gods" in ancient times.

Linlin said that his race was lost to history.

They are implied to have been wiped out centuries ago.


The real mystery is how can 47 year old King be a survivor of this ancient race.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

King's race was wiped out before the Celestial Dragons set up home on Mariejoa.

And we have no idea when that happened. Or even if the Genocide and the Mariejois removal happened at the same time.

Linlin said that his race was lost to history.

So was Rocks. That wasn’t centuries ago.

The real mystery is how can 47 year old King be a survivor of this ancient race.

It’s simple. The genocide occurred long after the Lunarians were removed from Mariejois.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

There aren’t 6+ top tiers just sitting in Mariejois. The odds of Imu or the Gorosei specifically involving themselves in a genocide is less than 1%.

why didn't know when happen it? Maybey King is family from some lunaries that got away. Queen doesn't know anything about who wiped them out. And the Lunaries are a gods, it's like a legend.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

why didn't know when happen it? Maybey King is family from some lunaries that got away. Queen doesn't know anything about who wiped them out. And the Lunaries are a gods, it's like a legend.

Rocks is a legend. A legend who was erased from history. And that wasn’t event 40 years ago.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Rocks is a legend. A legend who was erased from history. And that wasn’t event 40 years ago.

and akainu was 15 years old

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

and akainu was 15 years old

And?
One Piece magazine implies that Akainu and Aokiji were monsters before they even joined the marines.