Spoiler One Piece Chapter 970 Spoilers Discussion

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luffy beat rather quicly by crocodile pours water gets the dub
beat rather quickly by lucci
gets g2g3, gets the dub
beat rather quickly by kaido
get adv coa and the inevitable coming.

you would have to explain why they cant be compared.
Coz luffy was oneshotted by base Current Kaido
He didnt even push Kaido pass low diff
Kaido was tanking his free hits.

Even Oden a natural freak cant even beat Younger base Kaido despite having Enma (a lethal sword)

Let luffy fight base Kaido first pass midd diff in act 3 or 4

Then we can talk about him winning 1vs 1

Shanks and crew all they did was stop Kaido (probably dragon kaido) from going to MF
Even BM didn't beat base Kaido
 
luffy beat rather quicly by crocodile pours water gets the dub
beat rather quickly by lucci
gets g2g3, gets the dub
beat rather quickly by kaido
get adv coa and the inevitable coming.

you would have to explain why they cant be compared.
I think the difference is Luffy is definitely not doing this alone. He'll do the bulk of the heavy lifting, and will likely land the decisive final hit, but it'll be a team win with the other Supernovas, especially Kidd, putting in a lot of damage to Kaido imo. Big Mom is also an X-factor.
 
Coz luffy was oneshotted by base Current Kaido
He didnt even push Kaido pass low diff
Kaido was tanking his free hits.

Even Oden a natural freak cant even beat Younger base Kaido despite having Enma (a lethal sword)

Let luffy fight base Kaido first pass midd diff in act 3 or 4

Then we can talk about him winning 1vs 1

Shanks and crew all they did was stop Kaido (probably dragon kaido) from going to MF
Even BM didn't beat base Kaido
he was beat rather easily by those two
again still similar
 
I think the difference is Luffy is definitely not doing this alone. He'll do the bulk of the heavy lifting, but it'll be a team win with the other Supernovas, especially Kidd, putting in a lot of damage to Kaido imo. Big Mom is also an X-factor.
all of that is your personal theory on how the fight goes.
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you're making it sound like they never threatened a Man with his Son's life during a heated battle of life and death. Oh wait, I think they did..:leohah:
it seems like they skipped that part
or thta oden is never shown knocked out.
 
Luffy is whooping the shit out of Kaido once he gets advanced CoA. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional. Oda made it clear, that's all he needs.





Luffy was physically overpowering Kaido. Once Luffy learns to avoid his club with FS, Kaido can't do shit to him. Luffy's been taking punches from Garp since he was a kid. Kaido's punches aren't shit to him.
 
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You in delusion???... that was 20 years ago, i swear most op fans just read the manga to either downplay or overrate a character :tchpepe:
exactly.....

chapter 922: Kaido is weak ass getting clowned by G3
chapter 923: Kaido is damn strong....Luffy ain't even commander level blah blah......
chapter 957: Fujitora is a weakling as he has bandages.....(not to this scale, but it was there)
chapter 969: Oden is trash and weakling
chapter 970: Kaido is trash.......

guess it will continue till the end of OP....
 
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You in delusion???... that was 20 years ago, i swear most op fans just read the manga to either downplay or overrate a character :tchpepe:
Lol welcome to WG

They wank Mihawk who hasnt beaten any dude on Vet level in his life
Never left a meaningful scar on Shanks
Postponed vs Vista

Wank Prime Admirals who needed cheapshot to defeat Jozu Marco

Yet will bash Young Kaido for taking advantage of distraction
I'm pissed Oda wrote the end like this...

Oden WILL NOT LOSE TO SHANKS/RAY/MIHAWK
hell I'm not even sure Roger can take Oden down despite his powerful Haki

Anyway KAIDO is yet to lose in 23 years (from the time he beat Moriah to now)
We know he lost 7x but when was those 7 x?
 
The wanker says they didnt use their hybrid forms and you cant grasp it because you don't understand storytelling.
Oda is messing you up way too easily. Just like he got many to shit on Oden the last chapter only to regret it in the next one, he will do the same with Kaido. Oda be like: This is way too easy.:suresure:

Dont be surprised when Zoro Shishi Sonson's his head off. :smithnie:
I'm not even downplaying Kaido lol I just said its silly to think Kaido didn't use hybrid form because we didn't see it on panel. He might or might not have used it. Shit most of the fight was probably off screened anyway.

And even if it was base or hybrid kaido, it wouldn't matter today as Kaido had 20 years to get stronger.
 
Impressiv feat for Oden to give Kaido a big huge scar in his Dragon form, his strongest defense form who should even tank easier attacks as his Base form. Cutting Kaido in his Dragon zoan form is really a nice feat, look forward to see the panel where Kaido get his scar from Oden.

And I be interesting to see if Oden use advanced CoA in his attack. If yes then Luffy have the chance to damage Kaido in the next fight.
 
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