Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1034 Spoilers Discussion

[BleakAsh]

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[Shanal]

Some desperate Shanks fans tried to use the "But but Haki" excuse, but that never got them far.

Reasonable fans argued and maintained the "Live by the Sword, die by the Sword" concept, which was heavily argued against by Zoro fans. It was always "If you carry a Sword, you are a Swordsman. No if and's or buts about it."

Well, the jury is back from deliberation, and it turns out, that you are not in fact a true swordsman, just because you carry a Sword.

Decade long debate has now been closed.

There are in-betweens.

If you're one handed dude who has used sword in flashbacks, used sword in present, and uses sword in every single clash so far, on top of having no Devil Fruit or no special abilities of sorts, on top of once rivaling the WSS, you... kind of are a swordsman 100% unless somehow shockingly proven otherwise.

The narrative "If you use a sword, you're a swordsman" is false. But in all honesty, that narrative means fuck all for Shanks. There are a lot of far more convincing reasons if not downright evidence of Shanks being a swordsman through and through.

Unless you feel like pretending that he throws his sword away and starts kicking like Sanji as his main fighting style.

 

[Zowo]

"We've known Shanks since the very first chapter but how does he actually fight?"
What did Oda mean by this?

how he fights? with his sword a swordsman :cheers:
no df or u think shanks a karate man
every time he fought he used his sword
shanks is not a lunarian that can produce fire and having an ancient zoan df
i mean mihawk is waiting for a swordsmaster stronge than shanks to show up

 

[Nestor]

Only a handful of the very strongest can use germa abilities

 

[zzShinichi]

Damn we had like a 2-3 week break last year for chapter 1000 right? And then another 1 or 2 week break after it too. Shit was fucking brutal
At least we got the Korean Leaker to leak the chapter early.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Twisting panels context to feed your own narrative??


King never called him a swordsman because he didn't feel like sticking to traditional means.

The context here is to use anything to win.


In below panel, king was using sword but then suddenly switched to punching zoro

It's after this zoro goes on saying - you never called yourself a swordman. Have it your way"


But the context becomes clear when zoro further says - I might be willing to BITE your throat to because I can't afford to lose"


The context here clearly is about doing anything to win the fight - using cheap tricks as well which go against swordsmanship code/theme underlying wano samurais. That's why king never called him proper swordman.

But in one piece haki is integral to swordsmanship and many of you distinguish it from swordsmanship to put shanks over mihawk which was headcannon

Exactly my point. King doesn't want to stick to traditional forms when it comes to using a Sword. Zoro's conclusion is King is not a Swordsman, just a bloodthirsty brute.


Straight from the most Traditional muthafucking Swordsman's mouth himself.

 

[Straight From Laughtale]

It's funny if Queen just gets up in the next chapter and starts talking about King's COC then we move to the COC clash between King and Zoro

Queen is funny Not a fan of king cause he not doing much but there fight is great but queen be literally entertaining just like any other opponents of sanji
Not saying I don't like king or smthin lol

 

[Albino 👑]

King not being a swordsman even tho he obviously uses a sword has nothing to do with haki 🗿
He could coat his sword is armament, observation, conquerors, fire, lightning, and jesus he still wouldn't be one tho

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

There are in-betweens.

If you're one handed dude who has used sword in flashbacks, used sword in present, and uses sword in every single clash so far, on top of having no Devil Fruit or no special abilities of sorts, on top of once rivaling the WSS, you... kind of are a swordsman 100% unless somehow shockingly proven otherwise.

The narrative "If you use a sword, you're a swordsman" is false. But in all honesty, that narrative means fuck all for Shanks. There are a lot of far more convincing reasons if not downright evidence of Shanks being a swordsman through and through.

Unless you feel like pretending that he throws his sword away and starts kicking like Sanji as his main fighting style.

I've never once argued Shanks wasn't a Swordsman.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Some desperate Shanks fans tried to use the "But but Haki" excuse, but that never got them far.

Reasonable fans argued and maintained the "Live by the Sword, die by the Sword" concept, which was heavily argued against by Zoro fans. It was always "If you carry a Sword, you are a Swordsman. No if and's or buts about it."

Well, the jury is back from deliberation, and it turns out, that you are not in fact a true swordsman, just because you carry a Sword.

Decade long debate has now been closed.

Not to mention what Shimotsuki Kozaburo said last chapter, a swordsman is one who masters a swords personality and bends it to his will.

 

[Shanal]

I've never once argued Shanks wasn't a Swordsman.

Ah, cool.

But yeah, I always disagreed with "Everyone that holds sword is a SM". BM is definitely not one lol.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

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Woah that Sakura scene is pretty cool. Never watched Boruto but nice to see they're doing her well in it

 

[Brendan Schaub]

how he fights? with his sword a swordsman :cheers:
no df or u think shanks a karate man
every time he fought he used his sword
shanks is not a lunarian that can produce fire and having an ancient zoan df
i mean mihawk is waiting for a swordsmaster stronge than shanks to show up

why did Oda ask that question if Zoro's fandom already knows how he fights? volume 87 and Oda asks "How does he actually fight?" after drawing Shanks using a sword multiple times... I don't know bro, I wouldn't be so sure.

 

[MonsterZoro]

where????????

 

[Queek Hea D Taker]

A 3 week break and then after the fight ends a perma break

I'm not reading weekly for Luffy to beat Kaido. Talk about a boring fight

Don't!!! Who will open the spoilers threads when we get real hints...

 

[Reborn]

Exactly my point. King doesn't want to stick to traditional forms when it comes to using a Sword. Zoro's conclusion is King is not a Swordsman, just a bloodthirsty brute.


Straight from the most Traditional muthafucking Swordsman's mouth himself.

Because he isn't sticking to his primary fight style - swordsmanship


He can change his style just to win.



But no indication of such things when it comes to shanks whose fans created "hakiman" concept to put shanks over mihawk. But we all know haki is integral to swordsmanship


You are equating two different scenarios to prove a point which in totally false

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Don't!!! Who will open the spoilers threads when we get real hints...

I guess you can just make your own spoiler thread and say fuck Roger

 

[Finalbeta]

yes until late game, but in blitz he will have the advantge the whole game

Of course

 

[Queek Hea D Taker]

I guess you can just make your own spoiler thread and say fuck Roger

 

[Zowo]

why did Oda ask that question if Zoro's fandom already knows how he fights? volume 87 and Oda asks "How does he actually fight?" after drawing Shanks using a sword multiple times... I don't know bro, I wouldn't be so sure.

Until shanks shows something other than his sword or a df then we talk
so far he reached for his sword every time he wanted to fight :cheers:

When ace visted him he reached for his sword
When he was young always with his sword
When he challenge everyone at marineford with his sword etc
many examples
I mean why would the wss want to fight shanks? if he wasnt a swordsman