Has Queen been defeated?


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This is actually a very good chapter too back to back, makes also the other chapter where Sanji destroyed the RS worthwile, as Queen wanted him to use it so he can undermine it by showing his brothers abilities as well as invisibility.

Good to see he has been training his CoA off screen.
 
No, you're just going around bitching and insulting people while holding onto an agenda that some white lightning streak is CoC related over absolutely NOTHING. Not a single thing about that entire scene is what Oda draws for Coc.

Hell, even if those lightning were black, it'd look nothing like how Oda draws ACoC haki streak.

We get it, you just desperately want Sanji to have same PU as Zoro, it's okay. Hell, even I think he can get it in future (but not this arc). But don't go around being a pure asshole and dick to people over it.
I literally said I don't think it's coc you buffoon. Ill continue to insult you until you learn how to read.
 
I don't think the anime should be considered lol. They showed Zoro using CoC casually before the reveal :catsweat:

The point is, when Zoro used CoA hardening for the first time in the Pica fight it was made out to be a really big jump in terms of offensive power. Same thing with Luffy. Same for Sai as well - he was only proclaimed as a continent splitter once he unlocked CoA hardening.

And it's not like Hardening can only be used offensively right? Defensively it's useful as well to block stuff by applying it to certain areas - I certainly think Kid, Marco and Sanji are using CoA, just not hardening. Maybe it's because they never needed to master that ability in the first place Idk.
I don't know man. It's just that when literal fodder has it, it's hard for me to believe that people who're literally 1000s of times stronger than them don't. Also, the anime only added CoC when the manga had confirmed that he had it. It's not like they just randomly added it, lol. They never have iirc.
 
I don't think the images change the result much, Sanji still has enough speed to appear invisible, this already puts him as one of the fastest of the whole work, he is in my top 3 / top 5 without a doubt.

Even though Sanji's offensive power has increased a lot, Katakuri doesn't have Queen's durability/resilience, as long as the hits fit can cause a knockout.

I believe that Sanji's current speed is enough against Katakuri's FS, if I'm not mistaken fire is effective against Mochi.

Sanji's Durability should handle Katakuri's blows well.

Sanji wins Extreme Diff.

If fire has a mitigating advantage against Mochi High Diff.
Disappearing in itself is not a huge feat. It's about perspective, preskip characters could disappear to fodders.

Though Sanji is fast enough to disappear in front of or blitz Queen when trying to.
Though onto the chapter, it shows that Sanji is stronger than he appears in many stats even before gaining his power up. Underestimate him is dumb as to those who thought he isn't ready to beat YC when it shows he is capable and with his new technique and mode, it proves that. The effects of it is giving me vibes of COC as lightning effect is kinda new thing added. One can say it could be due to his siblings elemental abilities since one of them have them, but this isn't electricity and way it moves and hit is more by his own design than simple element. Pretty sure like with Asura with Zoro, Sanji's Iffrit Jamble is heavily implied hint on him having COC more especially how much damage it doing to Queen as he breaking his tech and bones with each attack and sending him flying into sky without much effort.

This be interesting to see on his abilities growing from this.
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He can't even beat King who isn't using much COA himself in hurting him. Queen would hurt him too much especially with having all Germa abilities at his will and that isn't counting Haki and Awakening.
Yes, Pan D. Man.

If it does not look like CoC (you can make it black and it would still look nothing like CoC haki streak)

If it does not make people (geisha) faint like CoC

If it does not make Queen say anything over it like Kaido/King did like CoC

That can only mean there are heavy implications of it being CoC.

Dude, please. Get a grip on reality. Sanji knew what was up and used that attack under full control and not in desperation, as well.

It has absolutely 0 going on about it which says CoC outside of your agenda of not liking Sanji unless he gets same buffs as Zoro. Appreciate your favorite for what he is instead of comparing him and shouting for CoC every chapter.
 
Instead of insulting everyone because you don't agree with, just read the manga again. It's already a big ass feat if sanji ever get coc and now adv.coc ? Imagine thinking he has demon god my ass coc when he can't even knock out a wounded geisha.
Gtfo idiot.
I literally said I don't think it's coc. Are you slow?
 
I literally said I don't think it's coc you buffoon. Ill continue to insult you until you learn how to read.
It's not premature to say it's not CoC, either. Literally no similarities in color, way they are drawn, SFX, fainting or character reaction.

I have no issues with people predicting it as CoC tbh, albeit I disagree. But anyone dubbing it as no-coc is not being premature at all, is all.
 
It's not premature to say it's not CoC, either. Literally no similarities in color, way they are drawn, SFX, fainting or character reaction.

I have no issues with people predicting it as CoC tbh, albeit I disagree. But anyone dubbing it as no-coc is not being premature at all, is all.
So it's wrong of me to make a statement saying we shouldn't dismiss any possibilities because we don't have enough info?

If being rational makes me stupid to you then idk what to say. Keep being redundant. Bye
 
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