Has Queen been defeated?


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To be fair, between Absalom and his own experience with the Raid Suit, Sanji has a weird amount of practice with dealing with invisibility in general

For sure though, anyone with good CoO shouldn’t have that much issue with invisibility to begin with.
The myth was that characters couldn't sense someone who is invisible even though that was the whole point of COO
Here, Sanji spots Queen and makes a direct line to attack Queen
 
This chapter shows you Marco and King aren't faster than boundman even in attack and movement speed
Sanji is faster than them! And Sanji is Snakeman level in attack speed , movement >Boundman
 
Apparently people just kinda forgot that Marco has speed feats against Kizaru.

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Sanji is not blitzing Marco or King the same way he blitzed Queen.
what speed feats?
Marco never kept up with kizaru movement speed
Only Ray and wb were able to track and stop Kizaru in light speed from going away.

Marco is slower than Sanji, he gets blitzed by Sanji and loses
Sanji is better than sanji at everything currently except CoA perhaps
 

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The Rogue Prince
For sure though, anyone with good CoO shouldn’t have that much issue with invisibility to begin with.
Not really if you look at the stuff Absalom has done.

He rescued Moria from Doffy evading Doffy's CoO in Marineford. He snooped in on Kid, Killer, Apoo and Hawkins and reported their alliance.

Invisibility is still OP in the verse. Not really sure how Sanji figured Queen out, maybe he heard some sound or sth.
 
This chapter shows you Marco and King aren't faster than boundman even in attack and movement speed
Sanji is faster than them! And Sanji is Snakeman level in attack speed , movement >Boundman
Okay you're comparing a high effort blitz from Sanji to Marco casually flying around and attacking, tbf.

When Sanji is fighting generally, Queen tagged him easily.

It's like how Lion Song managed to blitz King but other than that, King kept up just fine.

I do agree Sanji blitz speed is faster though.
 

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To be fair, between Absalom and his own experience with the Raid Suit, Sanji has a weird amount of practice with dealing with invisibility in general

For sure though, anyone with good CoO shouldn’t have that much issue with invisibility to begin with.
If you take invisibility at it's face value then definitely it's nothing.


But couple it with awakening (wonder how it's awakening would be like ) + high speed invisible movement + Good CoO of the user then it would be really hard to figure out his presence even for good CoO user.
 
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