[FNZ] Role Madness Kaguya-sama: Love is Mafia!

[Dr_Professor83]

@Dr_Professor83 im probably overthinking this too much. i agree with your rationale about the drago lynch giving us more wiggle room.

can we just lynch xlaw if he doesnt show up and unvote for the drago wagon?

dont wanna lose to some vote manipulation shenanigans lol.

I’m not totally against going Xlaw first still.

But if Drago/Xlaw are your scum, I don’t think even a lynch redirect could beat us.

I think the biggest danger is us going through Drago/Xlaw and then scum being someone else.

 

[Flower]

I don‘t get your problem, that ability confirms there is a way for Town to hide, be it active or passive hider. So it‘s not scum exclusive. And only Pein claims to have such a mechanic, which is a Shield.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Yeah. Which is the same thing. So not Pein would get protected, but his target.

Lol no, the scum hiding would get protected. I think.

Ryu’s ability says “if your target is hiding” not “if someone is hiding behind your target”.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I don‘t get your problem, that ability confirms there is a way for Town to hide, be it active or passive hider. So it‘s not scum exclusive. And only Pein claims to have such a mechanic, which is a Shield.

That mechanic changes who scum is behind tho, not who is hiding.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Im prolly overthinking this but i wanna be extra sure thats all.

Me having this one-shot must mean scum has some form of vote manip, else this ability wont counter anything.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Im prolly overthinking this but i wanna be extra sure thats all.

Me having this one-shot must mean scum has some form of vote manip, else this ability wont counter anything.

lol GTH it’s gonna turn out to be a counter to that Flower/Kagura ability we saw. Just a gut feeling. (Or paranoia).

But I’m scared to lynch one of them before one of Drago/Xlaw in case they are town and both die to a single lynch.

 

[Flower]

Lol no, the scum hiding would get protected. I think.

Ryu’s ability says “if your target is hiding” not “if someone is hiding behind your target”.

Look…

Pein shields a target.
His target is then hiding behind him.
Then Ryu targets Pein‘s target as well and then that target is protected against Strongman kills, too.

Got it?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

That’s why I want to lynch Drago and have @T-Pein™ RB Xlaw.

That way if there is even a single scum between the two we’ll have got them over today and tonight. If kill goes through then I think it’s safe to look at the paranoid option for real.

 

[ConquistadoR]

the lack of resistance means either defeatist attitude or they have something up their sleeve and they like this current state of events.

id just feel much better if we use my ability fwiw. or atleast lynch xlaw if he aint gna unvote.

 

[Flower]

Pein‘s Shield is best used on Townies than on scum. So those abilities and claims add up.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Look…

Pein shields a target.
His target is then hiding behind him.
Then Ryu targets Pein‘s target as well and then that target is protected against Strongman kills, too.

Got it?

T-Pein shields a target.
If Kawaii tried to hide behind T-Pein’s target then Kawaii will hide behind T-Pein instead.
If Ryu targets T-Peins original target nothing happens.
If Ryu targets T-Pein nothing happens.
Ryu can still only protect Kawaii.

T-Pein says that he’d get hit by an ability targeting his target. That just means Kawaii would instead hit T-Pein and get behind him.

Right?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Oh wait. I see what you are saying now @Flower

You are saying T-Pein doesn’t redirect abilities to him, but that he causes the person to get behind him.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

@T-Pein™ can you ask if your ability counts as a hide?

Not that it really matters lol. Idk why we are even going back and forth so much on this one really.

 

[Flower]

T-Pein shields a target.
If Kawaii tried to hide behind T-Pein’s target then Kawaii will hide behind T-Pein instead.
If Ryu targets T-Peins original target nothing happens.
If Ryu targets T-Pein nothing happens.
Ryu can still only protect Kawaii.

T-Pein says that he’d get hit by an ability targeting his target. That just means Kawaii would instead hit T-Pein and get behind him.

Right?

Wrong. If Ryu targets Pein‘s target, he will target Pein‘s target, not Kawaii or Pein. Kawaii can‘t do anything to change that.

 

[ConquistadoR]

can yall start unvoting pls? @~UwU~ @T-Pein™ @Kagura @Flower @Xlaw @Dr_Professor83

 

[~UwU~]

can yall start unvoting pls? @~UwU~ @T-Pein™ @Kagura @Flower @Xlaw @Dr_Professor83

why?

 

[Dr_Professor83]

Wrong. If Ryu targets Pein‘s target, he will target Pein‘s target, not Kawaii or Pein. Kawaii can‘t do anything to change that.

I was speaking/thinking of T-Pein as if he pulled abilities to himself, not forced someone behind him. I can see how he could cause the person to hide behind him now.

 

[ConquistadoR]

why?

I have a one shot which takes away all vote manip.

i should vote first on the wagon tho.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

I kind of hate to lose the wiggle room of lynching Xlaw first. But if everyone else is town then we can do it.

At least an Xlaw flip will cement Flower/Kagura either way to me.

 

[Dr_Professor83]

is down*