Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1035 Spoilers Discussion

[Redboy776]

Zoro will use En-ō Ittoryu: Flying Dragon slash to kill Kaido.

 

[Aknolagon]

Don't know yet. Summary and pics will make it clear.

All I'm saying is that King's "Gimmick" is far less troublesome compared to someone who literally sees into the future. Even Im disappointed that King's secret is something so banal.

If it was so banal or less troublesome, why you think Oda gave to Zoro the adv.coc ? Zoro figured it right ? so he could have just waited for King to make his flame disappear and beats him, but why ?
You do understand King doesn't need to show his weakeness right also ? So you are implying, as long King uses his fire, he is just invincible right lol

 

[Peroroncino]

420 pages of early summary downplay

 

[Gari]

Kaido can't one shooting King
adv conq zoro (without asura)>kaido

Factos 👍👀

 

[Zowo]

King atleast used his ability "the wildfire"

Queen didnt even used his plague against sanji

"the plague"

 

[Franosuke]

KO’ing would mean Li


Luffy is not glass canon. He has always been an endurance beast. He can take damage like nobody else. And Before you say Luffy was one shotted by TB, remember Zoro was also done in by the same attack. It even says in the databook that Thunder Bagua has the power to one shot.

Apparently everyone besides Sanji is now a glass cannon according to some people

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Has King demonstrated Snake Man Level of Attack Speed? Even then injured Kata danced around FS+Snakeman.

So does King have the attack speed and precognitive attacks of Snakeman FS luffy?

Base Luffy was already evading Katakuri.
Try harder.

And again Katakuri doesn't have AP to hurt King even.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Chinjao

Potential wise Chinjao was a legend, he's the weakest now.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Oda had to nerf zoro (he didn't use all his power) because luffy'd defeat Kaido
adv coc zoro should defeat kaido and BM

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Imma ask you to take a deep breath because you sound flustered.
So here is the deal, Zoro ACTUALLY took a direct strongest AdvCoC attack from Kaido and it did absolutely nothing like nothing at all to Zoro. Visually Tatsumaki did more damage to Kaido than TB did to Zoro and TB accomplished nothing so its not worth mentioning

So let me break it down to you and it might be a tad too hard to understand that's why I asked you to take a deep breath.

AdvCoC depending on how strong it is gives massive boost to your raw AP but your raw AP still needs to be strong. AdvCoC is very glorified version of advCoA but if your Base AP is dog shit to begin with buff can only take you so far.

Zoros Raw AP shits all over Kaido because Kaidos strongest attack thunder bagua was as effective against Zoro as one of Zoros weakest attacks without CoC was against Kaido. Funny thing is that's CoC Kaido attack.

So now imagine what happens when Zoro lands CoC enhanced version of same attack and even stronger attacks than the one that had Kaido
a) Scream like a pathetic pussy ass bitch
b) Get his scales cut
c) Have his Tatsumakis turned off
d) Cough more blood than Zoro coughed from Thunder bagua

so stop making wild statements like "Kaido is way stronger than Zoro"

Zoro whoops his ass the same way Oden did, no he whoops his ass even worse. The only way Kaido survives if he again uses a hostage. He already had Luffys dead weight ass at his disposal so that ain't hard

What direct AdCoC attack from Kaido? That never happened. You mean the Thunder Bagua? Yeah, that wasn't a direct hit.

The rest of your argument is garbage. "Kaido screamed!" Who gives to shits if a character screams? That's what happens when people feel pain. It's not a powerscaling argument and you know it. You never see that shit used anywhere else.

Oh cool, Kaido coughed blood from Tatstumaki. Any other character in the series would do the same thing. Even Mihawk would cough blood from a Tastumaki. Hell he'd have coughed blood from a direct attack from preskip Zoro. Preskip Zoro must > Mihawk. Coughing blood is a staple in all One Piece fights, but once again, because it's Zoro, it becomes some ultra uber mega feat that is supposed to signify Zoro's supreme greatness over the World.

Zoro has extremely high AP, and can damage any opponent. Still got the ever living shit kicked out of him by King, and Kaido's overall stats are far and above Kings.

Come @ me when Zoro fights and holds his own in a 1 v1 against an actual Top Tier, with all around Top Tier stats. Not a Yonko Commander who falls short of the spectrum, because his overall stats don't push him onto that plateau.

Zoro got his shit pushed in by a high tier, and yall really trying to argue he beats an actual Top Tier.

 

[ZoroMazino]

I'm sorry but what's that for a shitty argument too?

Do you really think that the duration of a fight is a judge of someone's endurance?

Something called the plot in case you didn't know

a fight varies according to the scenario, Katakuri vs Luffy lasts longer because Luffy is the main character that ends there, if Katakuri had fought against Zoro or another person we would not have had so much focus

Looks like you just started to read a shonen

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

only luffy would be able to touch him by spamming his fastest snakeman attacks till he loses all his haki again, what do you mean by zoro ???

Zoros current AP is vastly above luffys in whole cake. His AC and AOE also.

If he took out a dude who has lunarian dna, who has a special flame that buffs defense and also has an ancient zoan devil known for defense and still one shots there is nothing in kats defensive arsenal that is blocking what ever zoro throws at him

 

[Peroroncino]

King atleast used his ability "the wildfire"

Queen didnt even used his plague against sanji

"the plague"

queen used lasers invis, and whatever the hell yonji uses but not his fucking plagues. Lame ass fatso

 

[Julius]

King atleast used his ability "the wildfire"

Queen didnt even used his plague against sanji

"the plague"

King's epiteth tells his weakness

 

[Zowo]

@Bogard i posted the fire shit in the ace vs queen thread? mb lol

 

[Gari]

King atleast used his ability "the wildfire"

Queen didnt even used his plague against sanji

"the plague"

Zoro low diffed your boy don't be shameless.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

In your head of course.

Who is he stronger than? Boa is the only one you can claim has less potential than Dofla.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

I called oda and he said me than he had to nerf zoro because luffy is main character

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

What direct AdCoC attack from Kaido? That never happened. You mean the Thunder Bagua? Yeah, that wasn't a direct hit.

The rest of your argument is garbage. "Kaido screamed!" Who gives to shits if a character screams? That's what happens when people feel pain. It's not a powerscaling argument and you know it. You never see that shit used anywhere else.

Oh cool, Kaido coughed blood from Tatstumaki. Any other character in the series would do the same thing. Even Mihawk would cough blood from a Tastumaki. Hell he'd have coughed blood from a direct attack from preskip Zoro. Preskip Zoro must > Mihawk. Coughing blood is a staple in all One Piece fights, but once again, because it's Zoro, it becomes some ultra uber mega feat that is supposed to signify Zoro's supreme greatness over the World.

Zoro has extremely high AP, and can damage any opponent. Still got the ever living shit kicked out of him by King, and Kaido's overall stats are far and above Kings.

Come @ me when Zoro fights and holds his own in a 1 v1 against an actual Top Tier, with all around Top Tier stats. Not a Yonko Commander who falls short of the spectrum, because his overall stats don't push him onto that plateau.

Zoros tatsumaki blocked kaidos own, cut him and forced him to spit luffy out whom he had just swallowed

 

[Rosella.Fiamingo]

That is if King's "gimmick" has a weakness.

If there isn't one, I'd like to see Katakuri generate AP at the level of ACoC Zoro to high-high diff King.

He doesn't need to generate that type of AP. This is the issue thinking that AP is the be all end all of fights. Yes it matters but you only need "enough"

For the massive boost in AP zoro has just gotten, it won't do much for him against Kaido without any versatility to his skillset.

Like all things you need balance. Stats in combat especially AP is sigmoidal. At a certain threshold, adding more AP adds little to you ability to win a fight without having other factors at a good enough level. Zoro would still get bodied by Kaido even post COC boost because all he has gotten is a boost in AP.

Kata only needs enough AP which he has. The difficulty is putting King in situations where he has to use his speed to expose himself.