I see now but I still don't think I've done anything of the sorts. I don't think I've had an easy vibe when I have been one of the bigger pushers on a lynch, made cases on people, and have questioned people. For me an easy vibe would be just chilling and not doing anything remotely close to what I have been.
There are different nuances to it. It doesn't just have to be chilling and not doing anything. You fit the mold of the facilitator I've mentioned, and unless someone has absolutely no range as scum it's something that is easily fakeable. It entails doing exactly what you've been doing, being agreeable, engaging peeps with questions that I feel are pretty bland and don't lead to much conclusions or progression.
What are your non mechanical thoughts right now?
I also disagree here again lol. I've asked my suspects what they think of others and used to progress my reads. Having a back and forth with Al in which he tried to paint me in a negative light, and seeing people react to it also helped me develop my reads. So did Al's lynch, which is what made me suspect TAC and led to me casing him.
I mean let's just agree to disagree then lol. I'm not going to convince you you're scum, and I don't really take into account justification of behavior to develop my reads, but rather your content. There just hasn't been much progression for your presence in the game, and questioning of people.
Yes and I did do them and they have reflected into my progression. Like mentioned above, upon Al's flip my suspicion of TAC grew immensely, which has led to me ISOing him and having him as my top scum read coming into the phase. I will also have to look at others who were opposed to an Al wagon and tried similar stuff as TAC did, which will further reflect in my reads.
Think we're not really understanding each other, there is a slight difference between having reads and the progression in your solving. Latter really is reflected through your questioning which I didn't find pertinent most of the time, and how you approach people. Also looks like TAC claimed Jugg lol.
But I have. By asking Tea to claim and pushing that we've got his claim which was corroborated by two other players which has led to suspicion on Rej and me being the first to voice the fact that Rej might be an Exe. It turned out to be wrong now, however, nonetheless, it's definitely an example of me using it to solve the game.
Lol but I mean asking to claim isn't really ground breaking, but good stuff
I think this is the problem in our understanding of each other. I do not view Al as a consensus lynch. By the time I changed my vote to Al
Hmm I don't think so, we understand each other very well, I just don't think your involvement in AL's lynch and whipping people to vote by like tagging really reflect much townie especially since you have a whole other body of work that I have issues with, and especially since AL was maf;
he had only 2 votes on him whilst Cinera was the main wagon with 8 votes
Votes were thrown around later as well. The votes on Al mostly came from me stirring it up and getting people on that wagon. I can't call Al a consensus lynch when he was tied with another person in the VC, 6 votes behind the first wagon, and then more votes were scattered around, on Lind and Mid iirc.
After Cinera claimed, the consensus started turning on AL. That's just straight facts, even if votes at the time may not have reflected it.
I've discussed this above. Also I did have an emotional aspect in pushing Al. I wouldn't have tried nearly as hard if I wasn't that stocked and had that belief in my read.
I honestly don't see it. Think you were more so dunking on him to get the consensus lynch going rather than a townie conviction of having a real scum read they're convinced of. That would fit my coven idea of you, maybe had his role. There wasn't no blood and tears going on, that's real emotions lol
Also talked about this above. This is the biggest bone of contention we have lol.
Disagree. I vehemently dislike unnecessary waste of resources. You haven't played TOS in a while. There were games where we couldn't get a lynch going because the people were apathetic, inactive, or just randomly throwing out votes for nothing, which immensely benefited scum. This is why I have engaged Rej in that manner, trying to get him to vote and not waste it while we were scrapping for a lynch.
Fam, I've played in ToS games that ended in single digit threads lmao. I was molded by not reaching majority even with confirmed scum results. I think it's fair to try to whip people to vote, but my issue with your engagement with Rej lies in your slight shade of him. I just don't see it as a town approach, the "what you did might be considered scummy" is too weird for that. I don't get the feeling you actually were pinged by the post, so why that comment? Your whole approach is like a pseudo-push on him but also not being too confrontational which I found scummy.
Thanks Zemmi & Flower