[FNZ] Salem of Lies ToS - Christmas Special

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EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
guys hear this out

what if TAC is pulling off the greatest big brain 5 head 3d maneuver titan slaying gears and changed his role to an executioner, then is now making up some bullsht about don surviving a kill so we lynch don

“Put that cookie down!”
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
u okay man?
how is it that good for u i dont get it lol
i have EW and havent even logged yet. i havent even finished the stuff b4 it
I mean, I slept and ate lol. I had a bunch of holiday to use up, have two days left this week then I'm off for two weeks again, so figured I may as well. I'm being somewhat hyperbolic with my "no-life'd" thing but it really was an amazing experience from start to finish.

Do let me know when you're on (though, I expect the queues are really rough when you do log on), imo the early game is much better with a group of friends. I still have a few classes I could level alongside.
 
I see now but I still don't think I've done anything of the sorts. I don't think I've had an easy vibe when I have been one of the bigger pushers on a lynch, made cases on people, and have questioned people. For me an easy vibe would be just chilling and not doing anything remotely close to what I have been.
There are different nuances to it. It doesn't just have to be chilling and not doing anything. You fit the mold of the facilitator I've mentioned, and unless someone has absolutely no range as scum it's something that is easily fakeable. It entails doing exactly what you've been doing, being agreeable, engaging peeps with questions that I feel are pretty bland and don't lead to much conclusions or progression.

What are your non mechanical thoughts right now?
I also disagree here again lol. I've asked my suspects what they think of others and used to progress my reads. Having a back and forth with Al in which he tried to paint me in a negative light, and seeing people react to it also helped me develop my reads. So did Al's lynch, which is what made me suspect TAC and led to me casing him.
I mean let's just agree to disagree then lol. I'm not going to convince you you're scum, and I don't really take into account justification of behavior to develop my reads, but rather your content. There just hasn't been much progression for your presence in the game, and questioning of people.
Yes and I did do them and they have reflected into my progression. Like mentioned above, upon Al's flip my suspicion of TAC grew immensely, which has led to me ISOing him and having him as my top scum read coming into the phase. I will also have to look at others who were opposed to an Al wagon and tried similar stuff as TAC did, which will further reflect in my reads.
Think we're not really understanding each other, there is a slight difference between having reads and the progression in your solving. Latter really is reflected through your questioning which I didn't find pertinent most of the time, and how you approach people. Also looks like TAC claimed Jugg lol.
But I have. By asking Tea to claim and pushing that we've got his claim which was corroborated by two other players which has led to suspicion on Rej and me being the first to voice the fact that Rej might be an Exe. It turned out to be wrong now, however, nonetheless, it's definitely an example of me using it to solve the game.
Lol but I mean asking to claim isn't really ground breaking, but good stuff
I think this is the problem in our understanding of each other. I do not view Al as a consensus lynch. By the time I changed my vote to Al
Hmm I don't think so, we understand each other very well, I just don't think your involvement in AL's lynch and whipping people to vote by like tagging really reflect much townie especially since you have a whole other body of work that I have issues with, and especially since AL was maf;
he had only 2 votes on him whilst Cinera was the main wagon with 8 votes
Votes were thrown around later as well. The votes on Al mostly came from me stirring it up and getting people on that wagon. I can't call Al a consensus lynch when he was tied with another person in the VC, 6 votes behind the first wagon, and then more votes were scattered around, on Lind and Mid iirc.
After Cinera claimed, the consensus started turning on AL. That's just straight facts, even if votes at the time may not have reflected it.
I've discussed this above. Also I did have an emotional aspect in pushing Al. I wouldn't have tried nearly as hard if I wasn't that stocked and had that belief in my read.
I honestly don't see it. Think you were more so dunking on him to get the consensus lynch going rather than a townie conviction of having a real scum read they're convinced of. That would fit my coven idea of you, maybe had his role. There wasn't no blood and tears going on, that's real emotions lol
Also talked about this above. This is the biggest bone of contention we have lol.
Disagree. I vehemently dislike unnecessary waste of resources. You haven't played TOS in a while. There were games where we couldn't get a lynch going because the people were apathetic, inactive, or just randomly throwing out votes for nothing, which immensely benefited scum. This is why I have engaged Rej in that manner, trying to get him to vote and not waste it while we were scrapping for a lynch.
Fam, I've played in ToS games that ended in single digit threads lmao. I was molded by not reaching majority even with confirmed scum results. I think it's fair to try to whip people to vote, but my issue with your engagement with Rej lies in your slight shade of him. I just don't see it as a town approach, the "what you did might be considered scummy" is too weird for that. I don't get the feeling you actually were pinged by the post, so why that comment? Your whole approach is like a pseudo-push on him but also not being too confrontational which I found scummy.

Thanks Zemmi & Flower
 
I'm the juggernaut (bitch) hohoho

I sussed Don because I hit him N1 with my double action which gave me 1 kill (since I couldn't kill on N1 otherwise) and my action failed on him.
Lmao did you get to choose a role or just town as a faction?
It's just a basic kill and it said my action failed. Which isn't directly indicative of him being kill immune. But, given his response and weak claim, I think it says he isn't on the level.
Did he mentioned being attacked? Also were you informed of being attacked? Vet fires back if alert, so you should know
is it necessary that an exec always get their target in day 1?
there is merit to waiting so it doesnt look sus
maybe TAC shuda info dumped at EoD
but then thats not ToS standard
No, it just don't make sense for that approach to be Exe since he's shooting himself in the foot betraying his result and waiting an extra day.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Lmao did you get to choose a role or just town as a faction?
I just chose the faction, Zemmi will lemme know the role when the phase ends.
Did he mentioned being attacked? Also were you informed of being attacked? Vet fires back if alert, so you should know
I was not informed and I start out with basic defense, so IIRC that means a Vet would murder me.
 

EkkoLoJinx

How far I'll go...
I mean, I slept and ate lol. I had a bunch of holiday to use up, have two days left this week then I'm off for two weeks again, so figured I may as well. I'm being somewhat hyperbolic with my "no-life'd" thing but it really was an amazing experience from start to finish.

Do let me know when you're on (though, I expect the queues are really rough when you do log on), imo the early game is much better with a group of friends. I still have a few classes I could level alongside.
were u playing ff since it was out? it might be nostalgia driving u

 
guys hear this out

what if TAC is pulling off the greatest big brain 5 head 3d maneuver titan slaying gears and changed his role to an executioner, then is now making up some bullsht about don surviving a kill so we lynch don

“Put that cookie down!”
Could just be counterclaimed honesty
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Anyway, to get on point, @TheAncientCenturion I don't understand your process here if you had the option to just convert to the Town. Why lie and say you had Don caught targeting Mango? I think there is a good chance you are a Lyncher, or whatever they're called in Town of Salem, with Don as your target.

Which isn't to say I think Don is Town. I think Don's immediate assumption that TAC was a Lyncher was a terrible thought process to have - I don't see myself assuming someone fake claiming an investigation automatically wants me lynched because they need that for their wincon, as opposed to them just being scum straight up. It's a viable possibility, sure, I concede that, but Don has not presented it as such - it has been his ONLY conclusion to date on this matter. I think I'm going to vote Don today, but I'm wary of gifting TAC a win. For those more experienced in this format, how likely is it that a Lyncher target is non-town?
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Anyway, to get on point, @TheAncientCenturion I don't understand your process here if you had the option to just convert to the Town. Why lie and say you had Don caught targeting Mango? I think there is a good chance you are a Lyncher, or whatever they're called in Town of Salem, with Don as your target.
I literally just got it and jumped at the chance to not be Indie. If I had it earlier, I would've said so then.
I think I'm going to vote Don today, but I'm wary of gifting TAC a win. For those more experienced in this format, how likely is it that a Lyncher target is non-town?
I'm the Juggernaut turning town, I murdered Zolo.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
were u playing ff since it was out? it might be nostalgia driving u

Not at all, I started in 2019. Caught up about half a year after the previous expansion, Shadowbringers, came out. I don't even have an attachment to the Final Fantasy IP either really - before XIV my only experience with it was the disappointment that was XIII (though Lightning is cool) and Bravely Default. And it's not that I'm an MMO fan either, it's the first one I've stuck with for any length of time. It's hard to really describe - it's one of those stories that gets you more and more invested and generally is well-written. The only shame is that the first (base) game can be a bit of a slog and jobs feel tedious before like level 60, though I guess the free trial covers that.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Not at all, I started in 2019. Caught up about half a year after the previous expansion, Shadowbringers, came out. I don't even have an attachment to the Final Fantasy IP either really - before XIV my only experience with it was the disappointment that was XIII (though Lightning is cool) and Bravely Default. And it's not that I'm an MMO fan either, it's the first one I've stuck with for any length of time. It's hard to really describe - it's one of those stories that gets you more and more invested and generally is well-written. The only shame is that the first (base) game can be a bit of a slog and jobs feel tedious before like level 60, though I guess the free trial covers that.
Technically, I started in 2017, but I didn't stick with it, though I really enjoyed it then too. So, I guess I've been around it a bit longer, but not all that long really.
 
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